Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum

I throw way too many soft 6's & 8's to regularly bet those, but I'll make a $1 HW on them for the crew and piggyback a buck for me, so I can work it; if they hit, I press to $5 each and rack/hand-in the rest. As I'm using a modified V-2 mutant - if it's looking good - I will bet the 4 & 10 H...

Oh yeah, the ricochet; sorry, must have been in outer space...... done it once in awhile - I generally put a $1 on the DC as the dealers have trouble with all the moves, but it can be a good grind, D.N8r

DG,
I'm not familiar with the Ric, what's it about?
I don't think I've ever gone past $75 on the CTSL, I'd rather just shut it down and take the licking than get hammered, as its about getting the dice back, D.N8r

Dave, CT-SL is short for the Mad Professor's Choppy Table - Short Leash approach to betting the darkside. I'm sure his Heavy-ness has it in a thread somewhere around here although not sure what carried over from his prior site. In any case you can also google it, or perhaps MP will check in with the...

Dave, I don't do lays to cover the DP. I've toyed with it, but don't do it in the casino yet. I'm content to let the DP ride it out on its own, as I'm generally at $25 or less for the flat, but will cover the Yo. Nor do I do it when I play the CT-SL. A fellow I know does a $100 DP with a $50 Lay on ...

Dave, Yep, I'll lay odds on 4, 10, 5 & 9. Pretty much automatically. Single odds. If I win three in a row, I'll go to double odds. On my first several lays, I use a partial hardway hedge - i.e. $2 when I lay $20. or a nickel when I lay $40. I am content with single or double odds, as I like the ...

Thanks, Dave. While 3.5 rolls for an average seven out is a nice goal, not sure its "actionable" as MP might say for betting. From my perspective, when you're betting darkside I prefer a string of shooters to seven out instead of every other one sevening out quickly on average. Patience is...

LOL..... I was a few minutes late, shooting from the left end, but think things averaged out reasonably even at the DSB for me. While I've definitely seen colder tables (I'd rate this choppy trending cold). I thought it was better playing the DC than the DP for the first 45 minutes. Then there was a...

Mssthis1,
That's a beautiful thing

Nubs, Play both ways, establish a don't, then bet the numbers; or place the 6 & 8, and do a DC with odds be happy with a small grind till the table fills. If you must shoot try a pass/don't pass - then let the point dictate where you place or lay odds. Changing dice doesn't help, changing your s...

A month ago, I watched an interesting DP strategy unfold, off strip. A fellow was playing a negative progression. His unit was $70. Unlike the CTSL, he does not wait for a pass, but immediately bets the DP, though the unitized progression is similar. He starts at $70 DP, if the shooter sevens-out; h...

Count me in for the Darksider's Ball ! I remember once at the Rio, (I forget who was there and which event weekend), three of us turned the entire table into darkside shooting. I wish I still had the trip report, but alas, its been lost in the ether. Anyway, we three were betting dark with odds and ...

Bandit,
Congrats on a super hand. Betting will come in time, but well done on those Charles Town tables, they can be tricky.

D.N8r

PS Sent you a PM......

London, Thanks for the detailed reply. Agree with your temperature overlook, there's an alchemy worth respecting and it'll keep your attention in the game. I like the idea of hedging it while trying to win both ways but am thinking for a $1 game, vice your 1 pound game, that I'd go both small and ta...

This may look like an attempt to answer my own question from above; as just stumbled on this from the Mad Professor's "Dodging Bullets as a Darksider" article, to wit: What is the Temperature? The game of craps is very streaky: Ø The dice are “red hot” about 4% of the time. Ø The dice are ...

We like to keep you riveted, Heavy..... It's kinda of the same idea as laying the fifth or sixth Fire Bet point, without waiting around for all those pesky repeating points and presses; i.e. its quicker to a decision, too - than the Fire. How about this for a play - go $5 small & $5 tall on the ...

London,
So you start the DC after 2 ATS numbers are marked, i.e. at the 40% mark. Do you have a trigger for table temperature, as seems if its a warm table, you could get cancelled out. What kind of results are you seeing? D.N8r

I think that's an interesting play: put out a DC after they stop the game to pay the small or tall. 4 times last weekend after the stoppage the next toss was a seven, so maybe a Lay instead on the point? Regrettably two of those four was me, despite my best efforts to counter-ice that negative vibe,...

Less than 7%, actually 6.7% which maps pretty closely to MP's assessment in the "Dodging Bullet...." series of 6.4%.

I'll hazard a guess that those 22 came in clumps, with stretches bigger than 1 ever 15 or so....

mssthis1, that's my question too......
So that's 2, DF, ciao, D.N8r