CONTROLED THROW

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CONTROLED THROW

Post by ruebel » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:07 am

WHAT'S BEST WAY TO THROW 7'S.REGARDS RUEBEL

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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by heavy » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:22 am

Best ways to throw a seven:

1. Try NOT to throw a seven
2. Make five points on the Fire bet and go for number six
3. Double pitch from any of the popular dice sets - hardway - V-2 - V-3 - X6

Of course, the correct answer is "depends." It depends on how good your control is. In the seminars I teach players to shoot for the seven on the Come Out since that's essentially a "free" shot at the seven and a natural winner. We set the dice to the All Sevens set with the 6-1 on the axis. Then keep the dice on axis and rotating together at the same rate when tossed.
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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by jaime1943 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:23 am

Greetings Ruebel, H. and members,

Ruebel-H-and members-WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO THROW ONLY THE /4-5-6.

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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by SHOOTITALL » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:29 pm

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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by heavy » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:12 pm

Jamie - that's really an impossible question to answer because the characteristics of everyone's toss is different. I could tell you to use the V-2 in a certain configuration because that works with my throw, but there's no way to know if it will work with yours or not. Soooooo, the best way to LEARN to throw those numbers is to record a few thousand rolls using the hardway set, tracking them in BoneTracker, then looking at the permutations to see if you can find one that gives you the results you're looking for. THEN go throw a few thousand more tosses using THAT set to confirm whether or not it's working for you. There are no short cuts around it, really. Just practice, practice, practice.
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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by jaime1943 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:23 am

Greetings Heavy,

You say for me to practice, practice, practice, I have been doing that for 56 years. Jaime.

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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by mssthis1 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:41 am

Heavy beat me to it as I was going to say bet $600.00 across is the best way to toss a seven on the next toss.

The only legitimate answer in my opinion is to get a tracking program like bone tracker and enter your own tosses. The "Transpose 64" tab will show you which set of yours produces the most sevens.


For me. I toss under hand and my middle finger is longer than my ring or index finger, so, I set hardways with my middle finger gripping the right die deeper than my ring finger grips the left die, and let the dice roll off my fingers when I toss. For me, this toss produces many more double pitches than random. If you have trouble with the dice splitting using this grip you can use your index finger to stabilize.

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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by ruebel » Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:06 pm

thanksmssthis1,sorry thanks to everyone,i am using an underhand toss with the hardways and i am doing well.regards ruebel

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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by heavy » Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:47 pm

That's a good choice, Ruebel. If you find yourself having trouble with double pitches then consider switching to the V-2 or V-3 - OR - use a mutant version of the hardway.
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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by ruebel » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:20 pm

COULD SOMEONE HELP OUT.LOOKING FOR SETS TO OBTAIN PLACE NUMBERS 4-5-6-8-9-10 THANKS RUEBEL, JUST GOT BACK FROM MOHEGAN SUN CT.

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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by heavy » Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:20 am

V-2 with emphasis on the four and ten. V-3 with emphasis on the six and eight. X-6 with about the same chance of rolling any number - but heavy on trash. Of course, all of this depends on your ability to keep the dice on axis. Otherwise, you might just try the Hardway set with the 6-1 6-1 on the axis.
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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by irish » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:03 am

The best way to throw sevens is to also have the skill to not throw sevens. Skill is skill. People think that if you aren't able to throw more (fill in box number here), then they'll be able to throw more sevens. It's just not the case. Once you have developed a consistent and repeatable toss, the player can determine what their desired goal is at a given session.
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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by Bankerdude80 » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:50 pm

ruebel wrote:COULD SOMEONE HELP OUT.LOOKING FOR SETS TO OBTAIN PLACE NUMBERS 4-5-6-8-9-10 THANKS RUEBEL, JUST GOT BACK FROM MOHEGAN SUN CT.
Try this link: http://www.axispowercraps.com/dice-setting/
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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by heavy » Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:55 am

Irish nailed it. You have to learn the basics of dice influencing, practice practice practice, and apply what you learn when you get to the tables. Yes, there are sets that favor the seven and there are seven avoidance sets. But it you cannot keep the dice on axis and rotating in sync then it won't really help much.
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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by ruebel » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:05 pm

hey heavy,how can i get your axis power craps book,i don't want an e-book.regards Ruebel

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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by ruebel » Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:05 pm

Hey Heavy,if there is only 1combination to roll any hardway,shoudn't it pay 30 to1 think about it.regards ruebel

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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by 22Inside » Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:06 pm

It's not just the odds of rolling the hardway, but also the odds of it coming soft or the dreaded 7.

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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by London Shooter » Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:37 am

Hop it and you'll get 30 to 1. It's a great bet .......for the casino

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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by heavy » Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:35 am

Sorry I missed your earlier question. Thanks to the guys for answering it. Put 22Inside's answer and LS's answer together and you have the complete hardway package. If it's a one roll bet (hop bet) it'll pay 30 - 1 ($29 net). If it's a regular hardway bet it will pay 10 - 1 or 8 - 1 ($9 net on the six or eight - $7 net on the four or ten).
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Re: CONTROLED THROW

Post by ruebel » Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:26 pm

THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR QUICK RESPONSE REGARDS RUEBEL

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