CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

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CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by Moe Bettor » Wed May 19, 2021 3:35 pm

This is in practise on my unforgiving table. Set 1-2/2-1 which I BT'd and Coaster'd. Throws insane amt. of field numbers so I started with a $25 table. I popped to three quarters on a failed $25 field bet. Ended up with $46000. When I quit I was betting $300 go to $1000 field bets and hitting them 1 out of two or three times. On a win I regressed down to a hundred. The only problem was making my PL or sevening out eventually which means I would have to pass the dice and wait. That situation was, however, not very often after I started off by setting for a six or eight and then forgetting about them and just banging the field. Would I do this in a real casino? I am seriously thinking about giving it a shot in a couple of days. Could be a maximum butt cheeks tightener tho.

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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by 220Inside » Wed May 19, 2021 3:54 pm

What is the martingale progression you are using, beyond the 25-75 and 300-1000, and what is your trigger to switch to the higher starting amounts? Is this a positive or negative martingale play as you seemed to mix the two?

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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by Moe Bettor » Wed May 19, 2021 4:22 pm

Basically it is "you lose, you bet more." My trigger to the higher amts. was I just was winning so much at the lower amts that the situation evolved. I got confident I could hit a field within three rolls and was hitting them one after the other for a time. $25 lose go to $75 at the beginning and lose. I considered I needed to cover the $100 bucks plus get a profit so I bet $150. But I hit that and regressed back to $25. And as I kept winning I just upped the bets. Now when I was betting $300 I was already up more than $10,000. It was no big deal to double that $300 on a loss and go to $900 on a $600 loss. I hope this is clearer. But I think this is probably all absurd. Will this really work on a casino table? It should. If I can find a $15 table I might give it a shot starting real small.

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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by Parson » Thu May 20, 2021 11:28 am

This work by coaster and then N8 and 22 have opened up a lot of new possibilities. If you have good control of facial hits.... it's kind of mind boggling at times the possibilities.
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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by DarthNater » Thu May 20, 2021 12:50 pm

So I’ve spent time looking at my Field analytics. I have a couple of books where the field hits exceed 400+ out of 720 rolls. Then I’d look at my number of field gaps aka rolls between fields; as well as number of consecutive fields. Field clusters and field gaps are important knowledge points.

I found hitting two fields in a row is “often event” after a field gap, so my thinking is not doing a full regression after that first hit, but to step it down and IF you get that second then back to the base.

Look close at you BT Rolldata and count the clusters and gaps, DN8R
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Post by wild child » Thu May 20, 2021 1:18 pm

thnick wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:35 pm This is in practise on my unforgiving table. Set 1-2/2-1 which I BT'd and Coaster'd. Throws insane amt. of field numbers so I started with a $25 table. I popped to three quarters on a failed $25 field bet. Ended up with $46000. When I quit I was betting $300 go to $1000 field bets and hitting them 1 out of two or three times. On a win I regressed down to a hundred. The only problem was making my PL or sevening out eventually which means I would have to pass the dice and wait. That situation was, however, not very often after I started off by setting for a six or eight and then forgetting about them and just banging the field. Would I do this in a real casino? I am seriously thinking about giving it a shot in a couple of days. Could be a maximum butt cheeks tightener tho.
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Beau Rivage allows up to $10,000 MAXIMUM
and
on the Line & up to $10,000 MAX ODDS
on their Never Ever Craps Table.
( as observed on my last visit to the Biloxi Casino Market)
.
The Box # 2 & Box # 12 pay Six Times Odds
.
The Box numbers THREE (3) and the Box Number Yo'leven (11) pay 3 times odds.
The Field numbers, including THE HORN NUMBERS, are treated as BOX NUMBERS.

{$10,000 Max with $10,000 MAX odds
on Box # 2 & Box # TWELVE
pays $70,000}

Box numbers THREE and Eleven
with $10,000 Max & $10,000 MAX ODDS
would pay $40,000

The DOWNSIDE: THERE is NO
[as in ZERO DO NOT COME/DO NOT PASS (Dark Side)
on the Never Ever Craps aka CRAPLESS LayOut]

so at any $ U S Dollar risk the joints disallow a "DO / DO N O T wager"
on the Crapless Craps Table
======>( with very few exceptions mentioned earlier above)<======

HOWEVER FACTOR:
What better PROVING GROUND could a casion offer?

just me saying
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Start out at the minimum bet Level and run with it.

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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by House of Orange » Thu May 20, 2021 4:55 pm

Use minimum bets to generate a significant amount of rolls for BT. Then find the set(s) for field bets.

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Post by DarthNater » Thu May 20, 2021 6:55 pm

House of Orange wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 4:55 pm Use minimum bets to generate a significant amount of rolls for BT. Then find the set(s) for field bets.
Let me rephrase that a bit....

Use your last book of rolls in BT to find a set with a strong SRR and a high Field percentage, then practice with that set to validate its results are similar to predicted. Then minimum bet in the casino and assess your results; depending on that, move forward. Btw it’s helpful to have 2-3 sets ready for use depending on the table. Generally X6s and V2s produce more fields than V3s

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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by House of Orange » Thu May 20, 2021 7:00 pm

Agree with Nate, but I don’t have more than an Aloha Johnny setup. Table good for practice shots, not for predicting casino results on various tables.

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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by Moe Bettor » Fri May 21, 2021 7:10 am

going to try this today on the roll to win e machine at cherokee river after I tune the throw. Lower bets first. $200 buy in. will report.

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Post by Moe Bettor » Fri May 21, 2021 2:43 pm

Home from the casino and I present the chip porn as the result of my crazy ass field play.
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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by Moe Bettor » Fri May 21, 2021 3:05 pm

Forgot to add commentary. This is a high stress type of play. I doubt if I will pursue this. My worst situation was throwing 3 non field bets in a row. Luckily I had done well and was up two hundred from my three hundred buy in. Several times I started with $15 , lost and went to $40. Kept hitting that. I got to betting $50 and hitting and regressing, and then the inevitable happened. The 3 non field hits starting with $15 on a regression. $15 went to $40 on a loss, then went to $80,and got to $200 which I finally hit. I regressed and kept it up. Three hours of this. The chip porn includes my buy in..so there it is. Interestingly they had two craps tables open and both were at $15

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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by coaster » Fri May 21, 2021 3:45 pm

Nice going Nick,
You've turned into a pretty good farmer.
Living off the "land" does make sense when you can harvest like you do.

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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by House of Orange » Fri May 21, 2021 5:03 pm

All you need to know is where are the six’s, especially on a triple twelve table. BoneTracker will tell you!

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Post by DarthNater » Fri May 21, 2021 7:56 pm

Your progression looks a lot like my modified CT-SL... $15, $35, $70, $150.... love it when the Triple 12 hits on the $150. Know your 12 rich field set. When that 12 hits, leave $100 up for the back to back field. Then regress it to $50 and bump it $10 a toss until the string of fields ends. Then back to $15.

Go to your tosses in the RollData Tab of BT, and count the number of times you get back to back Fields, I’ll guess it’s frequent so weave that info into your betting strategy

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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by Moe Bettor » Sat May 22, 2021 6:46 am

As a matter of fact that did happen a few times. My favorite was coming out with a ten or four and making it for a twofer.

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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by grinder2017 » Sat May 22, 2021 3:21 pm

Nice win.
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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by DarthNater » Sat May 22, 2021 4:17 pm

Did almost the same thing on the crapless today, playing field progression and tossed a hard ten, after two sixes; regressed 50% and tossed a 12, which paid double along with the green I had placed it for.

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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by House of Orange » Sat May 22, 2021 4:58 pm

Nate: They won’t let you buy the 12 with green?

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Re: CRAZY martingale field using coaster and BT

Post by DarthNater » Sat May 22, 2021 5:54 pm

House of Orange wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 4:58 pm Nate: They won’t let you buy the 12 with green?
They buy all numbers at $10, automatically.

Also, I’m able to lay the 4 or 10 at $60 w $1 vig. It was $50 for one and then I asked for $60 and got it

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