VIDEO POKER

Believe it or not, craps is not the only game in the casino. Savvy players have a back-up plan for when their craps game is off. If Heavy isn't winning at Craps you're likely to find him playing Baccarat, Blackjack, or even Roulette. If the table games aren't working out he may even take a cigar break in the high limit slot area for a little hit-and-run action. But just like craps - you have to plan your play and play your plan. If you have a question on slots, video poker, carnival games or any table games other than craps, this is the place to post. Let's hear about the games you play when you're not playing craps! What's your game? What's your strategy? How's that working out for you? Inquiring minds want to know!

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Iceman95
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VIDEO POKER

Post by Iceman95 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:26 am

Does anyone play video poker? A fellow co-worker told me his brother-in-law brought software strategy on video poker. His bro-in-law practice with it. Now he is up 70k from playing video poker from what my co-worker tells me.

Golfer
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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Golfer » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:29 am

VP is my timeout game when taking a break. You can win if you have the discipline to leave when up and find generous games. Not too many here in Illinois. I hope BC talks about his big win.

Golfer

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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Operator » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:51 pm

Take golfers advice bc gave me just one tip and i made 1500 off of it. Makes me wonder what big cheif has under t pee me thinkum has more advise for operating brave. Besides the invite plus play the best games out there and staying away from the bad pay off ones like 7 to 5 jacks are better you have got to be kidding me really.Some one needs to be shot for even putting that one on the floor in the first place.

Blackcloud
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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Blackcloud » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:59 am

UNHH!!BC now splits the time 60-40 in favor of multi-liners vs other VP; but that means he surveys all other VPs. The M.O. is still developing. Two W2s this year, with one trip left. UNHH!!Last week a first ever diamond Royal, which was a first W2 on a multi-liner. All the tricks in JPs book are needed.

Note any smiley sends BC to some other page.

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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Operator » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:38 pm

well ok ill have to start looking at multilines now. I never thought that they were worth any thing.

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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Dylanfreake » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:54 am

I was dabbling at a one cent ---fifty play ----Bonus Poker machine at Paris Casino and hit a Royal Flush I think I won 250 pennies since I was playing one hand for one penny while waiting for Gail . It is amazing how many Royals I have hit over the years playing a penny or a nickle on a hand.

Gail on the other hand hit a Royal at Ballys Las Vegas playing a Double Bonus (8/5) VP machine. Now when she hits a Royal she makes money because she plays max on a 25 cent or a dollar machine.

If you are serious at playing VP , you must have a big bankroll and have got to seek out the full play machines . If you don`t have or do both of those things , your better off being a dabbler like me.

Blackcloud
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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Blackcloud » Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:27 am

;) UNHH!!BC think a full pay schedule means nothing if the machine won't pay :shock:

Jeff40
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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Jeff40 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:21 pm

Anybody follow Rob Singer? His video poker videos on youtube look and books look interesting.

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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by wild child » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:43 pm

Iceman95 wrote:Does anyone play video poker? A fellow co-worker told me his brother-in-law brought software strategy on video poker. His bro-in-law practice with it. Now he is up 70k from playing video poker from what my co-worker tells me.
I-95

How about tote over the cold drinks and popcorn the guy's B I L 's digs
for a V P SUPER LEARNING SESSION beer and popcorn marathon...Then update us..

$70 K at a sit down job and get to select our the hours....I am down with that.


W C

PS : I do not know about Singer...I do know B C is the real deal and if he ever releases
a DVD/CD or u Tube about V P , BLACK JACK -21 or CASINO POKER , I will be at the front of the line to purchase it..........The man is that good

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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Jeff40 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:54 pm

Black Cloud, Of all the video pokers, jack or better,2 wild, ect witch is the best to play? Plus what should one bet? Is it best to bet max? How much should one bring? I heard it doesnt matter how much you bet, the game it random. If you follow Singer, he claim the game isn't random. He on youtube. Teach us master.

Blackcloud
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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Blackcloud » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:36 am

;) UNHH!!Random is spelled P R O G R A M !!! Start small and nibble at the cheese 8-)

Jeff40, any machine or game that pays; if you are just feeding a box with no pays-leave it :arrow:
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Bushido
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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Bushido » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:35 am

This site will help with finding better video poker games.

http://www.vpfree2.com/

Blackcloud
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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Blackcloud » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:08 pm

;) UNHH!!Regardless of pay scale or game you want a machine that pays :roll: UNHH!!JP did not cover multi-liners ; but all of his ideas still apply. UNHH!!They want you to bet all lines; that ain't the way to play;but a progressive upity steps can work 8-)

Jeff40
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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Jeff40 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:34 pm

who is JP? Hey bc, when are you comming out with a video? Another question, I been studying singer, since it is a program, do you believe in hot and cold cycles of a machine? Singer states when your in a cold cycle bet min and increase when it starts to get hot. I had a friend, tell me his machine was paying off and when somebody hit a royal in his shot bank. Everyone complain the machine went cold. Law states they must be random, but since it is a program. who knows?

Blackcloud
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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Blackcloud » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:57 pm

;) UNHH!!John Patrick. What you call cold, BC calls it the 4 Q 2 mode; say it real fast :lol:

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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by DeadCat » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:30 pm

I've got a fair amount of VP experience. 28 Royals at last count. I've met and played with Singer. Although his claims fly in the face of what all the VP experts teach, he is right about a few things. The games aren't exactly "random" nor do they have to be. They have to be "fair" in their distribution of outcomes. After you have played many hours of VP you will see some patterns that aren't just your imagination. That being said, I wouldn't take advice from Singer or Patrick without first engaging your critical thinking cap.

One bit of advice I would give is don't play less than "Max Coin." If 5 Quarters is too big a bet, drop down to nickels or dimes. The reason is that the % Return tables mean absolutely nothing without the royal flush (or other bonus pay outs) being paid at the higher level. For instance at 1 coin bet, a RF is paid 250 for 1 but at 5 coins in it pays 4,000 which is much more than 5X 250 (it's 800 to 1) . The pay tables that say "99% return drop way off without that RF jackpot beign available by playing less than full coin. (They lose about 1.5% which might not sound like a lot but it brings the game into slot machine territory. It also removes the big jackpot opportunity which is part of the games' appeal.)

If you want to bet less when the machine "runs cold" and more when it is "hot" choose a multi denomination game and switch between denominations but keep the NUMBER of coins bet at max. Max is usually 5 coins, but some machines it is 10 or more. Just be sure your bet is enough coin to trigger the bonus pays).

The Wizard of Odds offers free VP tutorials that tell you when you make a lower EV choice and let you try again until you get it right. WHATEVER practice program you use, be SURE the pay tables match the game that you expect to play in the casino. JoB practice programs usually offer the same pay schedules as casinos but Bonus Poker games have pay schedules that are all over the map and this can cause problems if the tutorial gives advice based on a different pay schedule than the live game you play.


-DC
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Blackcloud
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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Blackcloud » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:18 pm

;) UNHH!!Max coin is the way the casino wants you to play. N E V E R play any game the way the casino wants you to play :( UNHH!!For BC's money the "wiz" is just another math freak hung up on a flawed basic strategy that the math boyz DID NOT INVENT 8-)

UNHHH!!For those who have asked, any publication would allow the casinos to eliminate what BC uses.
UNHH!!Like E. O. Thorp exposing the BS and counting to the casinos; and he was asked not to publish the book :twisted:
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acpa
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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by acpa » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:42 pm

Black Cloud,

If I understand you correctly, you are saying do not play Max Coins on a VP games.

if I am correct on the above, and I wanted to follow your approach, I would have the option of play between 1 and 4 coins.

Could you tell me what my choice would be, and give me explanation of your thought process as to why you made tha choice?

Thanks.

Noah

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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by Blackcloud » Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:51 am

;) UNHH!!Start at the bottom and work your way up; when you encounter the 4-Q-2 mode leave it.:)

Check PM
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Re: VIDEO POKER

Post by acpa » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:45 am

BC, if I knew what "4Q2" mode means, 4 quarters maybe, I would know what you recommend, but you failed to tell me why you made that choice.

Noah

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