The Worst Betting Strategy I Ever Played - This Thread of for Non Posters who Need to Hit their Annual Post Requirement

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Hi once again dice pals. As I mentioned on another thread, it's that time of year when I like to remind you all that there IS a membership requirement here on the forum if you want to CONTINUE to have a complimentary membership NEXT year. You've obviously met ONE of those requirements, because you're required to log onto the forum a couple of times a year just to keep in touch. But your ALSO required to participate by posting at least a couple of times a year. The forum’s software tracks every time you log onto the forum, including the date and time, and logs what you post and when. I'm able to scan through the member rolls and determine who has and has not met the posting participation requirement at the end of the year and set the necessary limits on the member sweep. Then at some point in January, I'll push the button and those who have not posted in the last year will be members no more. You'll be able to rejoin, of course, but it'll cost you another $12 to re-register because it takes up about $24 worth of my time to activate the accounts but I discount it for you guys. Hey, I have a soft spot in my heart for you - but not that soft.

To make it a little easier for you guys to post, I'm starting a couple of threads just for you - threads with softball topics my younger daughter could handle. This one? What's the Worst Betting Strategy I Ever Played? It should be easy. Just think about your biggest loss ever and tell us about it. If that embarrasses you then you're just a wuss. I've never lost enough money to buy a car, but I've lost enough to buy a damn good used pickup before and you don't hear me whining about it. That's what bankroll volatility is. Winning and losing. You just need to finish up you hand on the winning side. It doesn't always happen. So tell us about it.

Old times, I'll let you guys chime in on this easy peasy thread as well. Maybe we can encourage some of these Cowardly Lions to share a few words with us.

[ScaredMoney]

Firsties!
Worst strat.... hmm. I dunno, maybe triple luxe, or my early days of craps where I thought iron cross was great.

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For those of you who are not familiar with the Triple Luxe, I'll recap as best as I recall.

Once a point is established you pick the number you want to bet on. You can pick any number but it should be one you believe you have a reasonably good shot at hitting within three rolls. Let's say I'm shooting. Ten is one of my dominant numbers and I'll typically start out with even numbers covered, so let's assume I'm betting $25 units and have a Nine as the Point and have placed the even numbers for $110 action. If any number hits I'll press the 10 by $25 to $50 and lock up any additional chips after the first roll. If I did not roll an even number but rolled a Five or Nine, I'd take $25 from my rack and Press the 10 anyway. That's one roll down.

On to the Second roll. Let's say the Six rolls and pays $35. I take $25 of that and press the 10 to $75. I lock up the extra $10. Whoopee. I've now locked up $65 and still have $45 at risk plus my Line Bet and any Odds. I'm assuming the point is the odd number that did not roll on the first roll after establishing a point.

On to the Third roll. The TEN rolls. BOOM. Triple Luxe. The ten rolled in three rolls and it pays me $150. I have completed the Triple Luxe. Now I can take all of my bets down and finish out the roll.

Or something like that. It's essentially a single number press play for three tosses of the dice. Press everything onto that single number for three tosses. Then collect on the first hit on that single number - if you ever get it.

[grinder2017]

All strategies work sometime but none work all the time! There are a bunch of crazy ones on you tube to pick from.
Cheers
Grinder

[Pete0]

Not that they don't work but any darkside strategy I've tried has usually taken me out of the game. I buy in, the table is choppy or cold, I'm not making profit so I elect to play the Don't Pass or Don't Come. Before I can react the table turns around and I'm on the non-profit side once again....Just my luck. This is surely not the case for all sessions cause I'm still playing and really enjoy the game. I'm just a lightside player and have found it is better for me to just color up and end a failing session.
Pete

[kumar]

PeteO
Most tables are choppy hence one needs to be prepared to play the right side and switch to the Donts when the table goes south and then back to the right side when the tables turn;key is what are the triggers that allow us to make these switches?
If you have given up on the Donts then on a choppy table a tleast wait for the 3 count before placing bets,2 hits and regress and then be very aggressive on the press;on a decent table no need to hold back

[DougC]

Hi,
I'm a newbie to Craps as well as to this forum so I don't have much to contribute yet. I mainly play Black Jack on Royal cruises but I have lately been getting crushed by the dealers. I've been wanting to spread out to Craps so I have been pouring over this forum and Heavy's books trying to learn as much as I can. I did play on my last cruise and dipped my toe in the water with Heat Seeker and walked away about even but it was a very choppy table and there was a lot of up and down. I will keep you posted as to my progress as my education continues. I'm going to try my hand at Dice Setting
once I get my practice table built. Thanks!

[220Inside]

Welcome to the forums, DougC! You've come to the right place to start your DI journey.

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Welcome to the world of "Hey! I posted and busted my cherry!" Thanks for chiming in, Doug. Glad you made it on the forum. Hope to see you on one of the Craps Cruises next year. Haven't settled on a date yet, but should have something soon.

[DangerDadof3]

Worst? hard to say for me since I don't remember them so much or have purged them from my memory subconsciously.

What I do remember is my most recent "fail" - too much regression.

I was in Vegas - Planet Hollywood and bought in for $1500 and the table beat the crap out of me no matter what I tried. It was just one of those days. Down to my last $200 with my friend getting the dice I went $160 across and he proceeds to throw a monster (60+). Down $1300, I collected a few and pressed up to about $350 on the table in various iterations on the numbers. Regressed back to $160 across and worked my way back up to that $350-ish mark. Regressed back down to $160 and just collected until I had recovered everything I was previously down. By that time, he was deep in the hand and I was a little gun shy for Mr. Ugly Number to rear his head so TUMA-ed for far too long. While most of the experienced players were pressed up to $600 6s and 8s, there I was with $90 on them.

Anyway...I colored up about $2000 total (an $1800 swing with TWO regressions in there that I remember) and should have walked with many more thousands. So "fail" might not be the right word because I battled back with some profit to boot. But, I learned that while regression works it can have costly potential. FWIW, my friend colored up about $4k in profit playing 3 point molly with 2X odds on a $25 table...maybe TENS of thousands is more appropriate for what I missed out on.

This game is awesome and sucks at the same time.

DDo3

[Chevy]

The worst strategy I ever tried is press, press, press, press, press to table max. The bets REALLY GREW!! The only real problems were, none of the bets got to table max, so, I did not take any $$ off the Table. AND… to make sure it really hurt, I did it over multiple hands, just to make sure! Take my advice, don’t follow this strategy!

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The worst strategy I ever tried is press, press, press, press, press to table max.

I see people trying this all of the time - typically high rollers with big bankrolls to throw away, just trying to get to table max quickly in hopes of knocking out $100K plus wins. Trust me. I've known many players who regularly knock out $100K plus wins. Just about all of the right siders who do this play in high limit rooms on private tables with increased max limits in the realm of $10K to $25K per number. It's not unusual for them to get pressed up to $64K across. Some of them LOVE Crapless because it gives them even MORE chances to get MORE money on the table and hopefully more money off.

The OTHER guys who routinely take $100K a week off the table are again, high rollers with big bankrolls who play the Don'ts in casinos that offer 100X odds. They'll play $100 DP bets with $10,000 Lay Odds on any number and just stand there and wait for a decision. A run of Don't decisions on the table and they're up and out of there.

If you're going to press to table max you have to have a planned strategy that allows you to get your bets paid for and some profit off the table. Depending on how aggressive you want to be, you can either Take your first hit, Press it, or Power Press it. From that point on, you'd typically alternate back and forth between Pressing and Taking. Press most aggressively on the dominant numbers. Just go "up a unit" on non-dominant numbers and allow the additional chips to help pay for your action. But once you have a profit on the table you're Pressing every bet every other hit and, at pre-planned intervals, Power Pressing your dominant numbers. Once you have your dominant numbers to table max, then start pressing your secondary numbers more aggressively. And if, at any point, you think the roll is getting long in the tooth or you simply have too much action on the table - regress by at LEAST 50% of the action on the table, leaving the bulk of our action on the dominant numbers. If the hand continues, restart your betting progressions back to table max.

Always have a plan when you step up to the table. Plan your play and play your plan.

[Farelli]

Hello all,

The worst strategy I've ever played is the one I call "no strategy." Or perhaps even worse, a mixture of strategies played without any discipline.

Simply, that can wreck you

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Agreed 100%. Particularly about that "discipline" part.