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Question...

Post by nccarl01 » Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:27 am

New to the game. Just wondered if the following scenario was possible:

Don't Pass bet for $25

Point becomes 10 for example

Then make a $25 place bet on the 10.

(If 7 comes then it is a push / If 10 comes then profit



Please let me know if this is possible on a Craps table. I greatly appreciate your help and patience with a newbie

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Re: Question...

Post by Big O » Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:22 am

yes, you could place it for 20 and win either way
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Re: Question...

Post by heavy » Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:30 pm

Yep. O is correct. This is a common strategy used by many players. The problem is you have to beat the Seven and Eleven on the Come Out to to get the DP established. That's eight ways out of thirty-six to lose your DP bet. Three ways to win it on the Two or Three carps. The Twelve is Barred. That leaves twenty-four ways to roll a point number. Now, that's a 22% chance that you're going to lose our DP bet to a Seven or Eleven. One in every 4.5 rolls the Seven or 11 will knock you off that bet. But once your DP bet is established you do have an edge on that bet of anywhere from 2:1 on the 4 and 10 to 6:5 on the 6 and 8. But you're negating that by settling for a "push" by placing the point if the number rolls instead of taking advantage of the ADVANTAGE you have on the Don't Pass or Don't Come bet once it is established.

Don't get me wrong. I have Place the point in the past like that before myself. But not as part of a pre-planned strategy. Instead, I do it as part of a hedge play while attempting to get a DC bet established on a point with which will give me better odds of winning. If, for example, I get a $25 DP bet established on the Six, I may Place the Six for $24 and then play a $25 DC bet and hope to get an Outside number established as my second point. At that point THAT number becomes my dominant Don't Number. Then I will likely remove or regress the Place Bet because I now have a second Don't bet up and working and I don't want to dilute the power of that first DP bet any longer. The Seven is due soon and I want to take full advantage of it.

You will see FAR more shooters Seven out on a point of Six or Eight than you will ever see MAKE a point of Six or Eight. Sure, if the shooter is a dice setter - you may want to hedge the bet. Otherwise - that's why we call it gambling.
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