I thought I would take a moment to compare 2 progressions.
First some assumptions:
Table is a $5 table (as that is what I wrote the chart with)
All Vig is paid on the buy.
The initial -# under the rack column shows the initial bet cost.
The rack column represents the money from the bet that you put into your rack ( obvious I know, eh.)
Because I am comparing 2 progressions there is no regression ( I know we need to regress to lock up profits at various times)
The first Progression in a 50% rounded up progression.
The second Progression is a full press then same bet progression.
Inspector
Progressions (lots of math sorry)
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Re: Progressions (lots of math sorry)
Something seems off to me. On Line 32 you have $1 to the rack and press to12, but line 33 seems like more should go to thr rack...no?
Re: Progressions (lots of math sorry)
Dave,
The win going from line 32 to line 33 is $14, $6 of which presses the bet to $18 and the remaining $8 is added to the rack to go from $2 to $10
The win going from line 32 to line 33 is $14, $6 of which presses the bet to $18 and the remaining $8 is added to the rack to go from $2 to $10
Last edited by Inspector on Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Progressions (lots of math sorry)
Ahh I see now. I was jumping ahead of myself thinking the $2 was the win for line 32, not the current rack count after the press.
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Re: Progressions (lots of math sorry)
Hey Inspector,
I use to do the full press every second hit. I did little tricks to keep track of when I was to press or take but after a while it would get distracting. Either it will ruin my concentration when I was shooting, or make me miss out on cues to turn off my bets when someone else was shooting.
I've gone to doing the 50% progression, similar to what you stated with some exceptions.
1) I start of with a press on the first hit. So it would take 2 hits to make my money back, but I would have 3 units on the number ready for the third hit.
2) for the 4/10, I'd go $5, $10, $15, $25. A little bit slower than yours, but those numbers are hit less. Also i like seeing that quarter out there. Then after $25, it's easier to go $50, $100, $200, basically just doubling that place bet.
My question to you is how do you start off? Do you go across, or start with a fewer higher bets then regress like MP's $204 across?
I use to do the full press every second hit. I did little tricks to keep track of when I was to press or take but after a while it would get distracting. Either it will ruin my concentration when I was shooting, or make me miss out on cues to turn off my bets when someone else was shooting.
I've gone to doing the 50% progression, similar to what you stated with some exceptions.
1) I start of with a press on the first hit. So it would take 2 hits to make my money back, but I would have 3 units on the number ready for the third hit.
2) for the 4/10, I'd go $5, $10, $15, $25. A little bit slower than yours, but those numbers are hit less. Also i like seeing that quarter out there. Then after $25, it's easier to go $50, $100, $200, basically just doubling that place bet.
My question to you is how do you start off? Do you go across, or start with a fewer higher bets then regress like MP's $204 across?
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Re: Progressions (lots of math sorry)
Have you considered engaging your WAGER PROGRESSIONS perhaps
post the perhaps first two rolls of dice in a young hand ?
The M P $204 Across is a seriously *STRONG play in that the ADVANTAGE leverages
the bulk of your $204 with substantial PROFIT PERCENTAGE early while the hand is still young.
There is a vulnerability to LOSS to THE POINT SEVEN OUT (P S O ) and
THE POINT ,ANY NUMBER ROLL, then SEVEN OUT ( P-#-O )
IF (THE BIG IF ) THE WAGER MAKER REMOVES THE $204 ( or whatever ) early after one or two rolls
This is a STRONG PLAY when one honestly acknowledges the HIGH % of hands at a TYPICAL
craps table ending in less than 8-10 rolls of THE DICE......
As a D I types,we are going full out to fulfill wet-dreams of MARATHON WORLD RECORD numbers tossed.....
By removing your $204 and a hefty percentage of YOUR NEWLY ACQUIRED $$ WINNINGS $$ ,
..you THE WAGER PLACER..may continue with reduced stress to WAGER into the next three
dealer shift changes......or DRINK GIRL visits....whichever..........
( Global WAGERS are strong except when lost to an early SEVEN OUT with the full amount
or near full amount still at risk....)
Just me saying
Wild Child
* my thoughts run toward also covering THE HORN #'s.
THE HOWEVER FACTOR is Horn Number Wagering MAY be charged with REDUCING the
$ return factored into winning TWO WAGERS of the original well thought out $204 Across
post the perhaps first two rolls of dice in a young hand ?
The M P $204 Across is a seriously *STRONG play in that the ADVANTAGE leverages
the bulk of your $204 with substantial PROFIT PERCENTAGE early while the hand is still young.
There is a vulnerability to LOSS to THE POINT SEVEN OUT (P S O ) and
THE POINT ,ANY NUMBER ROLL, then SEVEN OUT ( P-#-O )
IF (THE BIG IF ) THE WAGER MAKER REMOVES THE $204 ( or whatever ) early after one or two rolls
This is a STRONG PLAY when one honestly acknowledges the HIGH % of hands at a TYPICAL
craps table ending in less than 8-10 rolls of THE DICE......
As a D I types,we are going full out to fulfill wet-dreams of MARATHON WORLD RECORD numbers tossed.....
By removing your $204 and a hefty percentage of YOUR NEWLY ACQUIRED $$ WINNINGS $$ ,
..you THE WAGER PLACER..may continue with reduced stress to WAGER into the next three
dealer shift changes......or DRINK GIRL visits....whichever..........
( Global WAGERS are strong except when lost to an early SEVEN OUT with the full amount
or near full amount still at risk....)
Just me saying
Wild Child
* my thoughts run toward also covering THE HORN #'s.
THE HOWEVER FACTOR is Horn Number Wagering MAY be charged with REDUCING the
$ return factored into winning TWO WAGERS of the original well thought out $204 Across
Re: Progressions (lots of math sorry)
Well, I was using the MP $204 across but I found it hard to locate a DI to use it on. While I do see people who set and people who have a gentle toss they are not necessarily the same people. So I stick to betting that on myself only atm.
I use this progression to try to get my starting bet back as soon as possible on others that I bet on.
I use this progression to try to get my starting bet back as soon as possible on others that I bet on.