Saw this strategy on Youtube

[dlacc14]

I found this strategy on youtube, Usually I don't watch some video it says turn your $$ into $$$$$$$, but just watched this because it has 200k+ views and 500+ up votes against 100+ down votes, I hope most of you already seen it.

It is basically $10 pass line($10 minimum table) once point establishes(for ex:8) a $75 DC, wait till DC travels to a number(ex: 10), and then

place $10 each on other numbers expect the Point(ex:8) and the DC travelled number(ex : 10), also add 2X/3X odds behind the pass line(video say max), and a come bet.

if you win on any place bet, come travels to that number and place odds with winnings of the placed number, continue come betting till you loose your DC / Win Pass line.

If DC Loose : off all the bets and odds, and put DC $75 and continue come betting or you can just continue to play without DC if it is a hot roll and you got all the money invested on the table.

My major problems with this strategy is loose DC and immediately followed by 7out, or a PSO.

If you have time please look at the video, it is 50+ minutes but you just need to watch initial 5/10 mins to understand what it is.

Please share if you see any other major drawbacks in this strategy, or please suggest if we can play with this strategy.

here is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9o4JHbHaTs

[freak]

Sounds like a basic "counterbalance" strategy where you make a number other than the seven the "bad" number that you hope won't hit. I mean any number other than the seven being the devil has to be a good thing right? It seems very logical and I've tried many variations of this "counterbalance" play. If fact the first time I went to Vegas to play craps I was convinced I'd discovered the holy grail. Then I got to Vegas and the first roll on a big DC bet was 11. Pick. So I tried again and it moved to 10. Perfect! Next roll 10. Pick. Turns out I had just been lucky in my practice. I quickly blew out my bankroll when my DC bets got picked from repeaters. Meanwhile my placed bets on the other numbers weren't hitting. How do the dice find the only number I don't want? How do they know? Somehow they do. I've found this like a lot of strategies - works great when the dice roll to support that play. More often than not it loses more than it wins in live casino play.

[dlacc14]

Wow, 11 followed by 10, I did not think of that, in any case it is as bad as 7out.

Couple of things I did not mention from the video
1) He is hedging with $5/$10 Yo when he places the DC (another high edge bet)
2) He is hedging with Hard 4/10/6/8 when DC travels to any of that numbers

[heavy]

Hedges, while comforting for a single roll of the dice, will ultimately grind your bankroll down until you toss the last dollar yo in trying to hedge that $10 DC. Alas, it is what it is. Another trap.

[freak]

Wow, 11 followed by 10, I did not think of that, in any case it is as bad as 7out.

Couple of things I did not mention from the video
1) He is hedging with $5/$10 Yo when he places the DC (another high edge bet)
2) He is hedging with Hard 4/10/6/8 when DC travels to any of that numbers

Practice it at home and track the results. Or just look at the many live casino rolls I've posted. Sometimes it will work great. Other times it will lose. Hedges always lose over the long run like Heavy says. Anything can happen in the short term. Last year I went through a phase where I'd "discover" a new strategy online or by reading a post. I'd get home excited and it would work great. I'd turn $200 into $1000. L would get home and it would still work great and we'd both win. OK. We found the secret to winning!!!! Then we'd have dinner and after dinner we'd play again and the new strategy would lose....BIG TIME. I bet this happened three times. We even started joking that we should only try new strategies AFTER dinner to see if they really worked.

This past weekend I walked up to a $25 table and watched a guy roll three 10s in a row. A come-betters dream. But for the DC bettors or the guy laying the 10 then doubling down after the first and second hit thinking it couldn't possible hit 3x in a row...well...ouch!

[dlacc14]

I totally agree with you, I will definitely run the rolls and see how that work.

And I will only practice after dinner

Thank you and Heavy for giving insight.

[SHOOTITALL]

This past weekend I walked up to a $25 table and watched a guy roll three 10s in a row. A come-betters dream. But for the DC bettors or the guy laying the 10 then doubling down after the first and second hit thinking it couldn't possible hit 3x in a row...well...ouch!

You are a piker. Heavy and I was in ABQ, I was playing the don't. This guy threw so many fours that Heavy had his four up to $1000 and I was fuming and about to put my whole buyin on a lay four. He could not possibly throw another four. Heavy talked me out of it and yep, he threw another four. I was fully cooked, done. He could tell this story better than me. sia

I am going to hedge here. This was so long ago, Heavy may have had the four to $500. I simply do not remember.

[Golfer]

Sounds better @ $1,000 SIA. Stick with that. I will never tell.


Golfer

[London Shooter]

I think the thing with a lot of these strategies, especially if they involve an element of hedging, is that they can go on long runs of small wins which may look impressive in short term, but then if you are hedging positions with 11% HA bets then sensibly the only long term position is down.

Plus the other thing is if you are trying a new strategy in practice and it isn't working, you will bin it pretty quick. If you try something different and that appears to work you will stick with it longer and it can soon look impressive, but only because you haven't yet hit the killer sequence which will send your bankroll down the drain.

[FredP]

All hedging does is put more money at risk. Use that hedge money to increase your flat and odds on low HA bets.

Fred

[6dollar6]

Shootitall

Last week I actually did, what you had thought about doing.

Similar scenario as yours:
Guy had already hit 6 tens and 4 fours.
I figured he was about done.
I bet a DC and it went to the four.
I laid $500 that he couldn't hit the 6th four.
I lost.

Notes to self:
1) Anything can happen at a craps table.
2) 2 to 1 advantage means nothing to the dice.
3) Education ain't cheap!

6dollar6