Iron Cross with Come Bets

[bounce the bones]

Reno the seinna is now open and is so out of their minds terrible service and attitudes by managment by day three of our trip everyone had either gone home or moved casinos.

dedication and desire great attributes be proud of them.

[Americraps]

I used to love the Sienna for 21. Never played craps there though.

[bounce the bones]

Last trip there they would not even open the table up for play they kept it closed all day we just moved hotels.

We were a large group that they knew was there to play dice.

Guess they figured it was a way to get some of there cash back see if we did not play then our room would of been179 for the night no play time no comp.

Yes we had beat them fri sat sun, and yes it ws a great place to play the last to trips there loved it.

They have even cut down the hours of the sushi bar and added a 20% service charge to room service.

The dealers where the best and still are the best they were so pissed off at what went on and then when they would not open the table at the start of the day shift mpnday put all the dealers on bj roulete pai gow at which they stood there for hours with no action it got funny, it is coming from upper managment,

[Michael]

The pencil pushers always know better than the guys in the pits.They only live it every day.

[heavy]

Classic Post Bump Time. Would you consider playing an Iron Cross with Come Bets? Start at the top of the thread and read all about it.

[London Shooter]

Lot of vig per roll in this play and a lot at risk on a PSO. Simpler place, to come, to place type play I would be more interested in and more likely to do. Certainly if field only pays double on 12 I would swerve IC completely.

[DanF]

I’ve been working the maths for a while, and I think I came up with something not bad!

First. Can’t deny, having 110$ inside is basically my goal on the table. But it gets expensive quick. So how ya do it cheap then? Here’s what I’ve had success with lately.

Start 44 inside. So you are spread for cheap.
Then you want to press only winning numbers strait to 25-30-30-25, but only one at a time.
Once pressed you collect twice. Then go to 75-90-90-75.

All an all it’s a full powerpress for cheap system. But how do you help it break bad runs? Here’s what has changed the game for me.

First, when I made good profit and game is fluid, I start dropping 60-60-50 on 6-8-9. Take 1 hit and regress to 44, start progression.

Second, when it’s not repeating numbers and I pressed two diffrent numbers and a third hit for no profits, I regress and lock the 3 base hits and go again without ever regressing that hand again.

Having the 3 things together made great consistent winners. And cheap buys, cuz if you think about it...say you start 66 ins and press equal every bet...you’re not collecting a thing before 3rd hit most times and on a bad day it rips you quick. So why risk it?

[House of Orange]

In the end it's whether you have influence or not. Get that SRR upto 28, and all your problems will be over.

[AlBTossin]

AC,
I like that you are always looking for a way to maximize your profits and you put the time in on your practice table to see if new ideas will work. However I believe this idea places too much of your money at initial risk for the profit you are seeking. Risking an initial $255 to net $35 a hit is rough to overcome with short outs. It will take over 7 hits to overcome one pso. If you are looking at $35 per hit then consider $150 across (20,25,30). This will reduce $105 at risk. Take your 2 or 3 hits and regress to whatever you want. I don't believe the crap numbers will be an issue over the long run.

I have also played with the $32 across with come betting on my practice table and at the casino. It works sometimes like everything else (hot, cold, choppy tables). But my strategy is to use the profit on a hit to place the odds and take down other box numbers to place the next come bet. This gets your money off the table soon. I only have a max of 3 come bets working. You won't get rich but you can make good money on the long hand.

However, I prefer on the initial regression to go to $66 or $44 inside or even and press up from there. It gives you more initial money to press to a level that can start taking good money off the table ($50 plus per hit). Best of luck!

[DanF]

Lets be honest nobody wants to rack 14-21$ a hit.
You want to start racking 35-49 a pop asap.

Just go 44 inside and press the hitters to max 25 5&9 and 30 6&8. Racking 35.

66 inside? Go all the way to 35 &42, racking 49 (50 for 1).

Depends on the day, but if you get 3 different hits and no repeaters, regress and start again, it’ll almost cover your inital bet.

[House of Orange]

In the end it's whether you have influence or not.

That's the bottom line, your influence. No system will overcome the edge. ISR works until the first PSO. If you start at $44 inside your average is 3 inside numbers before the 7.

[220Inside]

Lets be honest nobody wants to rack 14-21$ a hit.
You want to start racking 35-49 a pop asap.

Just go 44 inside and press the hitters to max 25 5&9 and 30 6&8. Racking 35.

66 inside? Go all the way to 35 &42, racking 49 (50 for 1).

Depends on the day, but if you get 3 different hits and no repeaters, regress and start again, it’ll almost cover your inital bet.

Perhaps, you don't want to, but if that is the level your bankroll will allow, you gotta go with it.

[London Shooter]

Yeah $44 inside, collecting 14s works for me

[DanF]

Lets be honest nobody wants to rack 14-21$ a hit.
You want to start racking 35-49 a pop asap.

Just go 44 inside and press the hitters to max 25 5&9 and 30 6&8. Racking 35.

66 inside? Go all the way to 35 &42, racking 49 (50 for 1).

Depends on the day, but if you get 3 different hits and no repeaters, regress and start again, it’ll almost cover your inital bet.

Perhaps, you don't want to, but if that is the level your bankroll will allow, you gotta go with it.

Look, I’ve been playing a while...you’re not beating the game collecting 14’s at a time, ever.

The only way to beat this game, is to take the money and run. So you have to plan on doing it quick.

[220Inside]

Look, I've been playing a while too, ok?

[London Shooter]

Dan It’s all relative. What if you do 440 inside and collect 140s - that doesnt mean you are beating the game any better than at a tenth of the level.

[House of Orange]

I'm thinking MP's $204 across bet is the answer!

[House of Orange]

Dan It’s all relative. What if you do 440 inside and collect 140s - that doesnt mean you are beating the game any better than at a tenth of the level.

But when you play in MS, you get $5 more for that $100 five or nine! Such a deal!

[London Shooter]

That is true. The auto buy 5 & 9 is a very good thing

[DanF]

Dan It’s all relative. What if you do 440 inside and collect 140s - that doesnt mean you are beating the game any better than at a tenth of the level.

I’m 100% with you. You can’t beat this game without smart presses, simply going inside and collect isn’t doing it.