Baccarat

Believe it or not, craps is not the only game in the casino. Savvy players have a back-up plan for when their craps game is off. If Heavy isn't winning at Craps you're likely to find him playing Baccarat, Blackjack, or even Roulette. If the table games aren't working out he may even take a cigar break in the high limit slot area for a little hit-and-run action. But just like craps - you have to plan your play and play your plan. If you have a question on slots, video poker, carnival games or any table games other than craps, this is the place to post. Let's hear about the games you play when you're not playing craps! What's your game? What's your strategy? How's that working out for you? Inquiring minds want to know!

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Re: Baccarat

Post by Jeff40 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:15 am

Might have to learn this game. They have easy baccarat at the isle, in bettendorf. No vig , 10 to 2000. Always see a lot of asians on the table betting big. Side bets are dragon 40-1(3 cards must equal 9)panda 25-1(3cards must equal 8)tie bet 9-1.

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Re: Baccarat

Post by stratocasterman » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:57 pm

Jeff40 wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:15 am Might have to learn this game. They have easy baccarat at the isle, in bettendorf. No vig , 10 to 2000. Always see a lot of asians on the table betting big. Side bets are dragon 40-1(3 cards must equal 9)panda 25-1(3cards must equal 8)tie bet 9-1.
Jeff40...if interested, try my thread, A Simple, Mechanical, Negative Progression Baccarat Study/Strategy https://www.axispowercraps.com/crapsfor ... f=8&t=5561

It's a long read but, worth it IMO. Lots of great input as you get farther into the thread. "Target Betting" as it is called has produced consistent Wins for us...
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Re: Baccarat

Post by Bones » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:51 pm

This was an incredible shoe.
6 ties 3 double ties 1 triple tie.

Most interesting was Stratocaster observation in regards to the Big Six. StratMan please correct me if I’m wrong.

On a 6 6 tie bet player and tie.
This occurred 4 times and 3 continued on to dbl tie and one to a triple tie.
I caught the first two ties and thought “Surely it can’t go again” missing the next one. Ugh


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Re: Baccarat

Post by stratocasterman » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:28 pm

Bones wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:51 pm This was an incredible shoe.
6 ties 3 double ties 1 triple tie.

Most interesting was Stratocaster observation in regards to the Big Six. StratMan please correct me if I’m wrong.

On a 6 6 tie bet player and tie.
This occurred 4 times and 3 continued on to dbl tie and one to a triple tie.
I caught the first two ties and thought “Surely it can’t go again” missing the next one. Ugh
EXACTLY Bones! Great one!!!
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Re: Baccarat

Post by eastcoast » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:20 pm

Bones hows the Baccarat treating you?

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Re: Baccarat

Post by Bones » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:12 am

eastcoast wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:20 pm Bones hows the Baccarat treating you?
Every time I think I’ve got it and the bankroll has swelled ugh I get slammed.

As Heavy says “Get in Get up Get out” it’s not fun but that is the way to build the profits.

I can’t tell u how many times I’ll win my first two bets stay and give it back ten fold.

I cashed out yesterday up $55. Wife kept going. Every bet that I watched go by that I would have won was like a knife in my chest. Lol. But then it went down the toilet wife ended up giving her $$ back plus $30.
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Re: Baccarat

Post by stratocasterman » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:27 pm

Bones wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:12 am
eastcoast wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:20 pm Bones hows the Baccarat treating you?
I can’t tell u how many times I’ll win my first two bets stay and give it back ten fold.
Bones...just parlay your first Win and walk after the second Win... :lol:

Just funning with you but, I will say I have been doing the parlay a Win to the next bet, only parlaying once...then waiting for the single base bet Win again to parlay. Works great when it works!
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Re: Baccarat

Post by Bones » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:31 pm

Back on Track.. Tweeked my strategy seems to be working well. Bankroll starting to grow again. All is right in the world.
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Re: Baccarat

Post by House of Orange » Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:02 pm

Will we see “The Strategy”? Thought that was a craps high priced product. We all need a fool proof way to make money. And that dice strategy, looked interesting, where can we find that?

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Re: Baccarat

Post by stratocasterman » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:29 pm

Bones wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:31 pm Back on Track.. Tweeked my strategy seems to be working well. Bankroll starting to grow again. All is right in the world.
Oh yea, congrats, I love it...Bingo! ;)
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Re: Baccarat

Post by eastcoast » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:06 pm

Glad to hear that Bones, keep up the good work!

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Re: Baccarat

Post by Tgold » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:07 pm

Ive spent the last several months methodically reading all of the articles on The Experts /Heavy speaks the dice listen.

I didn't realize Heavy sometimes tosses a baccarat nugget in the above section. The following article has a couple points to ponder that I think my fellow Bac comrades will find worthwhile.
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Re: Baccarat

Post by stratocasterman » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:49 am

Ah yes...the Heavy Baccarat nuggets!

Agreed Tgold, that Heavy is a sly fellow at times slipping in some Baccarat strategy.

Good catch! That was surely worth reading again.
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Re: Baccarat

Post by Lkwd » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:05 am

Hey Stratocasterman and Tgold


Heavy and DiceTrakkr put together a baccarat DVD, Baccarat Battle Plan which he sells here. He offered a discount with His personal Roulette DVD The 68% Strategy a while ago if you bought them both together. With everyone here in some type of 'stay at home' position it might be a good time to keep busy by spending some time on an Alternative Game. I made they purchase last year and like all projects its on the back burner. I do get upset with myself when I am at the casino, the tables are not friendly and I should have spent time on an alternative game.

It helps keep the brain alert.

Maybe reach out to Heavy and inquire about the availability of the DVD's.

Stay safe,


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Re: Baccarat

Post by heavy » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:54 pm

Baccarat will change greatly with the new social distancing guidelines when the casinos reopen. Imagine a $15 - $25 mini-bac table - formerly crowded with eight players and even more hangers-on gawking. Now it's a three-player max no hangers-on table at $50 - $100 minimum. Say you want to sit out a hand? Screw you bud. Bet every hand or get your ass out of the chair and let a player in. It could get that crazy. Their casino - their rules.
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Re: Baccarat

Post by wild child » Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:24 pm

5 G has driven changes to a number of things

Should we actually experience
a reopening of EVERYTHING
including restaurants, barbershops & hair care,

and

all else shuttered tight
in a De Facto /marshall law /curfew

TO SAVE HUMANITY from the invisible terror


Seems remote or "cyber meeting" to some degree may EVOLVE
in the future
to some degree more so than CURRENT EVENTS.

just me saying
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Re: Baccarat

Post by stratocasterman » Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:28 pm

heavy wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:54 pm Baccarat will change greatly with the new social distancing guidelines when the casinos reopen. Imagine a $15 - $25 mini-bac table - formerly crowded with eight players and even more hangers-on gawking. Now it's a three-player max no hangers-on table at $50 - $100 minimum. Say you want to sit out a hand? Screw you bud. Bet every hand or get your ass out of the chair and let a player in. It could get that crazy. Their casino - their rules.
Lordy, I should hope not BUT, I totally agree with you. Especially, that I have witnessed (pre-covid19 days) recent raising of the table minimums and some "gawking" tightening up (at high minimum tables or certain sections). Some table minimums were even doubled so, not to far off from what you are saying Heavy. It's never been a "bet every hand" demand here in the Philippines but, who knows?

Especially the table crowding "standers" or "gawking". That's ME to a tee! I rummage about from table to table SEEKING good shoes. I rarely sit down to a table anymore, except for a foot/leg break. That very well in itself may be a thing of the past for awhile!

I'm sure they may decide to give it a try anyway at first. What do they have to lose, for a short period anyhow?

I expect to see a huge playing rise in the e-stadium seating chairs, which is usually a ghost town here. Attendants standing by, just waiting for you to leave your chair/betting station so they can spray it down for the next waiting punter. Probably an every other station for social distancing as they are about 2 1/2 to 3 feet apart. Here, these are usually a $2 minimum. I would expect them to at least double or triple in minimums due to the demand.

Great insight Heavy...
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Re: Baccarat

Post by Tgold » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:33 pm

Hi Lkwd--thanks for post

You say: "...Heavy and DiceTrakkr put together a baccarat DVD, Baccarat Battle Plan which he sells here. He offered a discount with His personal Roulette DVD The 68% Strategy a while ago if you bought them both together. .."

Lkwd--Any opinions on the BB Plan above? Flat bet? pos pro? neg pro? Other?
I think you should present the BBP here so we can debate the merits.
Seriously I would like to know your opinion (without giving the main concept(s) .

I have considered it(BBP), however, usually forget about it so glad you mentioned it again. I didn't realize it was still in publication. Im not a roulette player (though I may become one if the above "roulette 68%" proves beneficial).

I have a very solid bac approach though Im constantly striving to improve it. I have found that I can usually learn something from most other methods/ most other players...etc.





Baccarat is like a giant puzzle. Once we find the big pieces the smaller pieces are more easily identified and put in their proper places.
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Re: Baccarat

Post by Tgold » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:49 pm

Hi Heavy
"...heavy » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:54 pm
Baccarat will change greatly with the new social distancing guidelines when the casinos reopen. Imagine a $15 - $25 mini-bac table - formerly crowded with eight players and even more hangers-on gawking. Now it's a three-player max no hangers-on table at $50 - $100 minimum. Say you want to sit out a hand? Screw you bud. Bet every hand or get your ass out of the chair and let a player in. It could get that crazy. Their casino - their rules..."

I agree the initial response will be over the top(some measures may be helpful, others, not so much.). I would not be in favor of the wager-every-hand protocol. IMO after about 30 days of casinos implementing their 300 super-safety-social distancing-sanitation regime the casinos will note decisions per hour are at approx. 40% typical. That revelation coupled with complaints from employees/patrons, will start the gradual progression toward historical protocols.
Though it could be months or years before a total return.

Continued success to all,
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Re: Baccarat

Post by Tgold » Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:41 pm

Hi Stratercasterman

"...I expect to see a huge playing rise in the e-stadium seating chairs.."

I agree--though its surprising we don't see the stadium baccarat in more casinos, especially the smaller casinos where they seem to be more reserved about adding full-time employees.

Windcreek casino (former sands) in Bethlehem, Pa has approx. 120 stadium seats--which is the most of any cas in U.S.


Continued success to all,
All the best,
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