2410
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:19 am
Has anyone heard of this play or tried it? 
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Re: 2410
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:37 pm
Seems like I have a copy of it on the hard drive of my computer at home. I'll try to remember to take a look at it when I get back in the saddle.
Re: 2410
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:11 pm
2410 Method
http://gamblingtheory.wordpress.com/200 ... 10-method/
"Just for the sake of making it easy to understand I will use my starting bet at $100 although I really do it with $25.
The system is very easy. Starting with shooter #1, you buy either the 4 or the 10 for $100. The casino will charge you 5% for buying it, so it will cost you $105. If your number hits once you win $200 for a total of $300.
Now you parley it. You buy it again for $300 and pay $315.
If it hits again you have $900.
Take $800 down and start all over again.
Like I said, in theory it is a horrible system, but that is why I bankroll myself for 25 shooters. If a shooter 7′s out I just start right over again after a point is established. I don’t know if I am just lucky but I am not lying when I say I have been very very successful with this. The worst I have done is just about break even because the parlay only happened three times in 25 shooters.
I must tell you that I am very strict with my 25 shooter bankroll. I put my original bankroll on 1 rail and I put my winnings in another one. When the original bankroll is gone I take my chips from the winning rail and call it a session. I in no way guarantee this system, but it really has worked so well for me I thought I would share it."
http://gamblingtheory.wordpress.com/200 ... 10-method/
"Just for the sake of making it easy to understand I will use my starting bet at $100 although I really do it with $25.
The system is very easy. Starting with shooter #1, you buy either the 4 or the 10 for $100. The casino will charge you 5% for buying it, so it will cost you $105. If your number hits once you win $200 for a total of $300.
Now you parley it. You buy it again for $300 and pay $315.
If it hits again you have $900.
Take $800 down and start all over again.
Like I said, in theory it is a horrible system, but that is why I bankroll myself for 25 shooters. If a shooter 7′s out I just start right over again after a point is established. I don’t know if I am just lucky but I am not lying when I say I have been very very successful with this. The worst I have done is just about break even because the parlay only happened three times in 25 shooters.
I must tell you that I am very strict with my 25 shooter bankroll. I put my original bankroll on 1 rail and I put my winnings in another one. When the original bankroll is gone I take my chips from the winning rail and call it a session. I in no way guarantee this system, but it really has worked so well for me I thought I would share it."
Re: 2410
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:14 am
Ok. Have u tried it?
Re: 2410
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:52 pm
Yeah, I play a similar strategy on myself sometimes, on Irish sometimes, on others sometimes. I'm basically looking to see if any of us are on a streak with the 4 and/or 10.
I remember a time at one of our team play sessions, I was assigned a 4/10 strategy and ended up making the most out of everyone else on the team.
The way I play it is very simple, bet the 4 AND 10, take first hit and then press 50% of winnings on any hit there after.
(Vig on WIN example)
1) Wait for point to be established.
2) Bet $25 each on 4 and 10. (-$50)
3) Hit on either 4 or 10, pays $50 less $1 vig, take winnings, same bet (-$1)
4) Hit on either 4 or 10, pays $50 less $1 vig, press number hit by $25 ($23)
5) 2nd Hit on pressed number, pays $100 less $2 vig, press number by $50 ($71)
6) continue until seven or table max
Quite often get one or the other to $200 level, sometimes both. On a few occasions get it above $200. Sometimes the next press would go from $200 to $500, instead of $200 to $400).
If you get a hit at either the $400 level or $500 level, I would recommend a regression back down to either $100 or $200.
I've tried this on random shooters when I charted a lot of outside numbers, but have only very rarely (probably like once or twice) made money on a randy with this. I mostly reserve it for DI's that are influencing toward the 4/10.
I remember a time at one of our team play sessions, I was assigned a 4/10 strategy and ended up making the most out of everyone else on the team.
The way I play it is very simple, bet the 4 AND 10, take first hit and then press 50% of winnings on any hit there after.
(Vig on WIN example)
1) Wait for point to be established.
2) Bet $25 each on 4 and 10. (-$50)
3) Hit on either 4 or 10, pays $50 less $1 vig, take winnings, same bet (-$1)
4) Hit on either 4 or 10, pays $50 less $1 vig, press number hit by $25 ($23)
5) 2nd Hit on pressed number, pays $100 less $2 vig, press number by $50 ($71)
6) continue until seven or table max
Quite often get one or the other to $200 level, sometimes both. On a few occasions get it above $200. Sometimes the next press would go from $200 to $500, instead of $200 to $400).
If you get a hit at either the $400 level or $500 level, I would recommend a regression back down to either $100 or $200.
I've tried this on random shooters when I charted a lot of outside numbers, but have only very rarely (probably like once or twice) made money on a randy with this. I mostly reserve it for DI's that are influencing toward the 4/10.
Re: 2410
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:07 pm
This could be an alternative wager flyer and ONLY IN YOUR COMFORT ZONE.
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Define Comfort Zone :
1) You are in a casino and at a table you have a history ( you know the specific table,crew and other players)
2)You stay alert for COMMONALITIES >an EXAMPLE Each shooter tosses (# XY ) as charted
3) You know the SIGNATURE #'s of specific shooters
4) Other shooters or YOU are showing ( THAT XY ) SIGNATURE # as previously noted
5) Wager the $ amount you are comfortable placing at RISK ...REMOVE WAGER $ AND PROFIT when it shows
......be adult and soldier on should your FLYER WAGER be lost to the 7 OUT...
Some times you may take note EVERY SHOOTER TOSSES ( just an example ) the YO on the second or third roll of THE DICE EACH HAND.......Just for
GRINS give it a go for a $ amount in your comfort zone for RISK..*
* If you keep your cool and refrain from hyper celebrating only you will have picked up on it.
You will harvest that HONEY HOLE until you don't....
BE CALM AND CARRY ON
Just me saying
W C
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Define Comfort Zone :
1) You are in a casino and at a table you have a history ( you know the specific table,crew and other players)
2)You stay alert for COMMONALITIES >an EXAMPLE Each shooter tosses (# XY ) as charted
3) You know the SIGNATURE #'s of specific shooters
4) Other shooters or YOU are showing ( THAT XY ) SIGNATURE # as previously noted
5) Wager the $ amount you are comfortable placing at RISK ...REMOVE WAGER $ AND PROFIT when it shows
......be adult and soldier on should your FLYER WAGER be lost to the 7 OUT...
Some times you may take note EVERY SHOOTER TOSSES ( just an example ) the YO on the second or third roll of THE DICE EACH HAND.......Just for
GRINS give it a go for a $ amount in your comfort zone for RISK..** If you keep your cool and refrain from hyper celebrating only you will have picked up on it.
You will harvest that HONEY HOLE until you don't....
BE CALM AND CARRY ON
Just me saying
W C
Re: 2410
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:01 pm
Been using my numbers and board numbers, staying with the buy in of 25 players, on a no vig till win. Up (in pretend play) Over $ 2000. One loss session so far of a total $ 50. Might try it out. Waiting for a rainy day when I am not working. Hasn't happen now in a long time. Then off to the casino.