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... scenario is as mentioned above). Sometimes I will send the DC out as a doey-dont with the same Net-DC $ wager, so that I would have the option to take odds at a later stage for a partial hedge (dependent on stage and number).

*A good friend used the above with a DP or DC (instead of a PL or C). He ...

Thanks for the reply. I will definitely go don’t or pass line, or DC or place bets.. definitely want some comps for playing. I watched a guy at the table with the most chips and just copied what he was doing and it worked out that day.

... above).

Personally, I would be more in favor of just eliminating the DOEY and only send out the DONT & lay odds regardless of its landing spot. I would keep the lay odds on 5/9 the same on all shooters(say $30 based on your ranges mentioned above instead of trying to profile the shooters ). I would ...

Will change strategy. Thanks for information. Did not know that. advdel77

The other thing to remember is that the house rates you as a $0 bettor when playing the Doey-Don't, so don't expect to receive any comps for your play.

Well..y'know you're giving something to the house on every hand with a doey don't and the 12 is a killer and if you hit the 5 or 9, 4 or 10..well you know the drill. But the 12 is infrequent and if you like your hedge and it's working for you, what the hell. I personally only take one hedge sometimes ...

I recently played a Doey Dont system where I played in a $15 table. If 6/8 rolled I placed $25 odds, 5/9 layed $15 to $30 odds depending on the shooter, and always layed $30 odds on 4/10. I had 3 winning sessions with the first sessions cashing out $990 on $500 buy in. The other 2 sessions were a grind ...

... DP, make point, table cheers; I elect to shoot for the table and play doey-dont; dial a boxcar LOL).

Do you like this method better than OHCM? If you don't know it, search this site for OHCM. It's been frequently discussed.

... the Rightside player give up a 2:1 advantage over the house by making a doey-dont wager? It just doesn`t make any sense to me. Of course after a point is established , the rightside bettor no longer has the house advantage.

I guess the doey -don't play is just a feel good play for those that like to ...

... Placing the do and don't at the same time is referred to as "the Doey-Don't" and here is a line about a little of it:
https://axispowercraps.com/crapsforum/search.php?keywords=doey+dont
Then there is playing the Come/Don't Come at the same time. I watch a fellow play this for big bucks. He was ...

Just do a doey dont you dont have the sweat the 7 and 11 on the comeout and your only worry is the 12.

The doey-don't does not protect anything if you're a long run player. The house advantage on the Pass line is 1.41%. The house advantage on the Don't Pass line is nominally the same. It doesn't ...

... on a lay bet if you intent to lay odds against the set point. Just do a doey dont you dont have the sweat the 7 and 11 on the comeout and your only worry is the 12

To keep costs down I would do as follows:

When shooting. If allowed, doey-dont $15. So only a $15 loss if a 12 on the CO. Puck on, BUY the 6 and 8 at $15 a piece, $1 juice on both, for a $32 investment. Either 6 or 8 hits you get $18 but ask to place both numbers now. So the dealer should keep $5 and ...

... where I would not be able to put any odds on my line bet and do a doey-dont. Lost more. Eventually I had a nice roll. Had a fire bet, and made 4 points. Unfortunately, I didn't make any money since I couldn't capitalize on my passes since I did not have any odds. Now I knew this was a ...

The killer for wagering the Doey-Dont is the number 12. If the number 12 was not a push on the Don't Pass only fools would play the Pass Line unless they were superhuman shooters.

... to 17%, a 26% increase. The Yo cuts the loss possibility by 20%. (O.K. A doey-dont cuts the odds to ~3% and it will not work for me.)
Part of this is I have looked at systems for many years, collected them until I lost them all in a computer crash and too lazy to start up again. I have not found one ...

... keep betting against shooter and win. i use to play a system where i doey-dont on come out and layed odds against, and continued increasing odds as i lost. once a shooter hit 4 points total loss would be $240 . you then either walk away or start over. its a grind but usually win a little but a lot ...