Pass Line Then Come

[Finisher7619]

Heavy Was wondering if you have tried this . Go with 204 across right off then make come bets with 10 and down . Then keep doing till you get 3 come bets working and take down all place bets . If one of your come bets comes down replace with place and put up another come bet . If your comes bets hit off and on add more odds to them . This would be a big hit if the 7 comes early . I have just seen to many times when I and others have gotten up on 2 ,3 come bets then the 7 out . This way at least got them paid for . Unless some crap numbers roll . Hope to be out of hand with your money when have 3 come bets . Thanks for any advise .

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Going strictly by the math of the game, most games are decided before the fourth roll. The shooter either makes his Pass or Sevens out. The average hand is just under 8.5 rolls. The problem is this. If you have five or six bets with odds up you when you get to roll 8 you've only collected on one or two bets, so you inevitably end up in the hole. If you have a quick seven out with that $204 across you also go in the hold quickly. Either way is a bitch. I do play $204 across from time to time, although on a $15 game with a modest $620 buy in I tend to play $96 across including the point. When playing $204 across I'm looking for two hits at $50 for $1, then I regress to $96 across and everything is paid for - OR - I regress to $66 inside or $66 even (depending on what numbers have rolled on the first two hits) and I have a modest profit in the rail. The ONLY time I use a Come bet is on an unknown shooter where I have a Pass Line bet and no odds yet. A Place Bet on the Six and Eight. And it's the first bet after the point was established. I will sometimes make a single Come bet as a potential hedge against the Seven showing up on that first roll. I'm always hoping the shooter will toss a Six or Eight so I can replace the Place Bet with a Come Bet. I get paid on the Place Bet and take it down. But I do NOT take odds on the Come bet. I play it like I would play the Heatseeker, but I'm limiting myself to a single Come Bet. It's going to have to pay for itself before it has the right to be replaced. If the Six repeats and I get paid on that Place Bet for - say $15, then I'll take that $15 and add $15 to it and Place it back for $30. Then we'll see where the hand goes. But I'm still playing conservative with the Pass bet and won't take odds until he's made his first Pass - unless he gets past 8 - 10 rolls and I've taken a profit off the table - at which point I'll take single odds and may increase that out of further payouts on Place Bets as the hand continues. But Come Bet? Not for me in general. And honestly, I'd rather bet $154 inside than $204 across most days.

[Finisher7619]

Heavy Well that PSO would be bad . Now on first hit your place bet will give you 29.00 plus that which you bet . [ 64,71 OR 74 ]. So on next hit you just take down all place bets and you will be up with 2 come bets and 1 that if a 7 comes you win with a loss of 40 . Or 30 . If your come goes to another number then wait till one of your come bet wins or till roll is over with a loss of 60 . When I first get to table I just put 10.00 on the 5 and 9 and hope for a hit . then throw in one dollar to make what ever did not hit 25 and say down on the one that hit . So I am in for 11.00 and just start adding to bets if I get more hits . Hit on that number to be able to put 25 on one that hit first . next hit throw in 1.00 and say place the 6 and 8 . you know what will happen with the roll going on . Any ideas about this way ? Thanks

[Crapsjunkie]

Almost 23% of all hands end in 3 rolls or less. IMO, a big part of craps is finding ways to either make money off of those short hands or minimize losses on them. Pass line and come bets help minimize those losses while A min DP with odds and then come bets can actually make money on those short rolls.

[Finisher7619]

When you get 2 come bets up you are now out of hand that you started with . Also if a 7 comes now on the 4rd roll you win the come but do loose your 2 come bets . If the 7 comes on 3 rd . roll you did get some of your money back depending what had rolled .

[Finisher7619]

This how it would go . First roll est. a point then 204 across . On 2nd roll the come bets goes to a number and you take down that number a long with win . Third roll when come goes to another number you say down on all place bets . You are now out of hand with 2 wins and have two come bets working . With 2 unites out there at risk with one unite possible win . You will be the one to decide about odds on the come bets . If a come bet comes down for a win then replace it with a place bet . Hope to get some off and on bets going .