Decreasing the "Don't Pass" bet

[IronCross]

No, I'm not asking if it is a smart move!, but I read somewhere a while back that you can decrease your don't bet one time. I can't find where I read that now and I just want to verify if that is a real rule or not.

Thanks.

[realtime]

You can take off any amount off your don't pass bet up to the whole amount as long as you are not the shooter. If you are the shooter, you can reduce it down to the table minimum. I don't know why you would do it though since you already made it past the 7's and 11's on the come out. Just place the the number that is the point so that you either break-even or make a little when the hand is resolved.

[Mad Professor]

Once a PL-Point has been established, you hold a ~60% chance of your DP wager winning.

~If it's a 4 or 10; it is 66.6% in your favor vs. 33.3% against.

~If it's a 5 or 9; it is 60.0% in your favor vs. 40.0% against.

~If it's a 6 or 8; it is 54.5% in your favor vs. 45.5% against.


MP

[IronCross]

Thanks for your responses realtime and MP. Can either of you confirm if there is any rule in place as to how many times you can decrease your don't bet (not being the shooter).

I agree with both of your points, I'm just trying to understand the game better that's all.

Thanks!

[Mad Professor]

Hi IronCross,

As far as I know, there`s no limitation on the number of wager-reductions you can make to an active DP bet.


MP

[SHOOTITALL]

O.K. Here, I will tell on myself. I like the don't, but if a hand goes past 9-10 tosses, I do get nervous (make that paranoid) and will sometimes start a reduction. Odd thing is, about 50% of the time I am wrong. My thinking on this is that if the shooter has gotten past the math of a seven out he just may be on a roll and I do not like being on the wrong side of a roll. For instance in my last trip report I noted a shooter that just knocked hell out of the lower place numbers but his point was the ten. I was on the no ten and won the bet. Had I the brains God gave a goat, I would have been with him on the place bets but instead had THUMA just enjoying him knocking them dead.

[Dylanfreake]

Casinos love it when you reduce or pick up a Dont Wager after a number is established.

In Tunica , you can reduce a Dont wager as many times as you want .

I saw a player go off on a boxman in Tunica one time when a stupid Dont player picked up his Dont Pass wager. A player that had a Pass Line wager decide that if the Dont Player could pick up his wager then he should be able to do the same . When he did, the box told him he couldn`t pick up the Pass line wager. I thought a fight was going to break out. Insults about prejudice and discrimination came from the player to the box. And then the player looked at me and thought I was in cahoots with the box and the pit since I was telling the guy that had picked up his dont bet that any time in the future I would buy his bet from him. Security was called and that pass line player was escorted out of the casino , after he had put a $5 chip back on the table.

The funny thing is that after the roll continued his pass line bet won. The box got his chips and put an off marker on top of the chips. When I left the table about 30 minutes later , the chips were still in front of the boxman. I have no idea whatever happened to the chips. A dealer told me they just would remain "Unclaimed ", if the guy didn`t come back to claim them.

[IronCross]

Funny story Dylanfreake. Thank you everyone.

[Golfer]

Damn SIA, keep that shit to yourself. Now if you just said reducing odds I would have agreed but damn man..............flats? Tsk, tsk, tsk.

[SHOOTITALL]

Golfer: Hard to do. I seldom lay odds except on the 4/10 on the first couple of rolls when I am doing one of my systems. I am in agreement here with Grafstein that odds weakens the lay bet.

[heavy]

Interesting discussion from the betting strategy sub-board back in 2013 that might interest you guys. It's all about decreasing the size of your DP bet as the hand stretches on. I think I get what the player is hinting at here. Let's say you're the shooter and you have a $50 Don't Pass bet established on the Five, then you play $51 Inside. After the first hit you collect $21. Same bet? Now, you have an interesting situation. If you seven out you lose $51 but win $50 - sort of a One Hit - Can't Miss variant. But if you make the five you lose $50. That puts you down $29. So would you be better off reducing that DP bet down by $20 after that first hit? Or are there other variations on that theme you might consider? Perhaps something involving going to something like $44 inside including the point, for example. Think about it, maybe put a pencil to some different options and let me know what some viable options might be. Me? I'd make the Six and Eight look like $24 each, take down the nine and go for another hit - but I'm a gambler at heart.

[Moe Bettor]

I don't think you can reduce your initial DP bet if you are the shooter. No problem if another person is shooting, but the DP bet actually
becomes like a contract bet if you are shooting and making the bet. You could remove odds if you've layed them, no problem. Or is this
a casino preference? Where I usually play, the shooter makes a DP and has to live with the basic bet throughout the hand.