Heavy's Bookend Play

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Heavy's Bookend Play

Post by heavy » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:30 pm

Heavy’s Book-End Play
by Steve “Heavy” Haltom

It’s kind of funny how some members of the forum start salivating whenever they hear about another cleverly named betting strategy. Some of us who knew the late forum member known as “Wolf-Byte,” who also went as “wwwww” for a few years, miss his Thirteen Level-Three-Capping-Fibo-Neuro plays with all of their attendant variations. So for you silly strategy fans – this one’s for you.

The Book-End Play starts with the Book-End Bets – the Four and Ten. You won’t bet the Pass Line unless you are the shooter. Let’s assume you are. Put a Pass Line minimum bet out there, set for the sevens and try to toss one. If you do – great. Lock up the win and do it again. If you set a point take at least double odds. Then you’ll Buy the four and ten for $25 each. If your bankroll dictates that you can only Place the four and ten for $10 each – that’s fine. Just remember you’ll buy the number that hits for $25 on the first hit. From there on you’ll be one step behind the example that follows.

Let’s assume you’ve sets the nine as the point. Let’s also assume we’re in Vegas and the first buy is “free.” Toss in $50 and tell the dealer “Buy the Four and Ten for a quarter each.” He’ll set it up.

If you are the shooter you’ll set the V-2 or whatever set you personally use to bring out the fours and tens. Then start tossing the dice. You have three number to think about. The four, the ten, and the nine.

Let’s say the four rolls. Whichever “book-end” rolls determines which end of the table you’ll be playing. If the four rolls it’s the “downtown” numbers. If the ten rolls you play the “uptown” numbers. The dealer will cut out $50 for your win on the four and tell you to “drop a dollar.” You drop the dollar and tell him “Bring down my four and ten and set me up a $50 five. At this point you’ll have a Pass Line bet with odds on the nine ($30 total in a $10 game) and $50 on the five – a total of $80 action. Thanks to your $49 net win you have just $31 of sevens exposure. In other words, you essentially have a $50 free bet on the five.

Continue with your hand. Should you be fortunate enough to make your point just leave your Place bet up, but don’t work it on the Come Out. We’re going to set for and try to throw a seven on the come out once again, and continue tossing sevens until we set a point. Let’s say you do that and the point established is the eight. Take $20 odds, use whatever set you use for inside numbers and continue your hand. Should you be fortunate enough to toss a five the dealer will pay you $70. Tell the dealer to “bring my five down and place the six for $120.” You’ll now have $120 place action on the six, but it is essentially a free bet, paid for on your first hit on the four. Okay, if you want to be picky you have $1 at risk on the Place action. I’ll risk $1 to win $140 all day.

The final objective of this play, by the way, is to get that hit on the six, lock up the $140 win and take down the $120 bet. It works out to a $259 profit on just a couple of hits. Of course, you might make another pass and your hand will continue. If so, and you’ve scored on your $120 six (or eight) go ahead and toss out another $50 and try to do it again. Then again, the devil may come to visit and you’ll see all of your action get locked up in the dealer’s bank. After all – it is gambling.

This is not an advantage play – it’s an entertainment play. Keep that in mind when determining how much bankroll – if any – you want to invest in it.
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Re: Heavy's Bookend Play

Post by Operator » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:26 pm

I may try this next week. I miss the old guys big kahnman , Do you guys remember point seven out.? Ill never forget him giving rex a hug when he found out he owned a liquir store still brings a tear to my eye. :lol: Pso loved the wine i must say. Lets not forget ac doc with those charts ( i never understood them but they were pretty)

Yup the old days were fun arnie probaly posted more systems then any body else miss that guy quite entertaining to say the least.

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Re: Heavy's Bookend Play

Post by 6dollar6 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:26 pm

Thanks for the memories Operator.

I always studied Arnie's posts. He had hundreds of systems it seemed.

I ran Big Kahnman's Army March only one time and got it to the last step and sevened out.

PointSevenOut gave me a tip on gripping the dice several years ago that I use to this day.

If I ever saw a post by ACDOC I quickly ignored it, his only purpose was to argue.

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Re: Heavy's Bookend Play

Post by Golfer » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:00 pm

I too miss the Big K. I use that play at times and have run it to $120 8 but lost. A fun time can be had. I use the same bet option at times instead of a pure march.

You guys are right there were some good guys and some characters.

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Re: Heavy's Bookend Play

Post by Operator » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:19 pm

Ok heres an update went to the casino with a plan oh ok heres how it turned out. .First hand was out of pocket shot from end of table actullay i was beside the dealer table was so croweded i had to shoot over the numbers. I only put full odds on the pass line. I made two passes luck pure and simple. Should have played the 4 and ten deal would have hit it.
I leave the table hopeing it would clear. Played slots with wife. Came back to table one hour later saw my spot. Ok im up 50 bucks so i put heavys idea to use. ive got pass line full odds and start tossing 10 rolls go by with no 4 or 10 in sight but ive made two passes(so i do the scared thing and pull them down locking up profit for that hand. Ok im not going to tell you how many passes and numbers i threw because its un believe able. Left up 300 bucks pass line odds bet only made.
Stay away from table for a good 2 hours played slots with wife.Came back lost 100 bucks in about 30 mins of play.I did keep the 4 and ten up and got the 5 up to 50 bucks just could not get the last hit.
Ok next morning i think should i play this system again or lumber jack mike hmmm nope think ill start off slowly with pass full odds dam good thing. Black guy at table said i made him alot of money last night can i do it again my head swelled up real big( this did not last long) .

Nope i went out 4 different hands real quick at the end of the trip up 30 bucks on craps for the trip. Dont ask about the slots it was a train wreck. :cry:

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Re: Heavy's Bookend Play

Post by bryfromtheharbor » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:41 pm

Lets say you hit the 10 on your shot then you take it down. On another shooter you see a 9 so you pull it out of rack and give it 3 shots. At Perfect World Casino shooter hits a nine on his second try. You pull it up and put it in its own spot in the rack. You get dice back and make the 8 completing the play.

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