What do you do when both racks are full?

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What do you do when both racks are full?

Post by heavy » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:14 pm

Yes, it happens to almost all of us from time to time. You start out with $500 in the rack, play it down to $200, then back up to $700, then back down to $400, then someone sets the dice on fire and tosses a monster. You've gone from $7 same bet to $15 for $1 and even have increased your six and eight up to $30 each and have been getting $35 same bet. You are gun shy about pressing anymore, but now you're having to stuff chips in your pocket because there's no room left in the rack. You don't want to pick up a double handful of red chips and ask the dealer to color them up to green or black for you because it'll kill the flow of the game. So what do you do?

In the good old days I'd send the bride over to the nearest slot carousel and have her grab a slot coin bucket. But those days are long gone. So we have to be a little more creative. Let's start with the four and ten, which you've bravely pressed from $5 to $10 to $20 to a $25 buy bet. It's long since paid for. Next hit press them both to $50. Period. From there on you'll be paid $100 for $5. This means for every red chip you take out of the rack you'll put a black one in - keeping the status quo (full rack) while increasing the value of the rack.

Now let's talk about that $10 five and nine you haven't pressed yet. You're getting $15 (three red chips) for $1 (one white chip) and there's no room in the rack for three chips. You can only replace the single $1 chip you're taking out. So when your five or nine hit drop $11 on the layout and tell the dealer "Give me $25 for $11 please." A newbie may balk. The old timers will understand and be right on it. Besides, the dealers probably NEED those red chips because the table is running out on a hand like this. So go from $15 for $1 to $25 for $11. You're actually gaining ground in your rack with this move. Of course, if you want to press on the next hit then press the five and nine to $15 each and take the remaining $4 and give the dealers all of the hardways for a buck. It can't hurt. From the $15 level it's easy to press the next hit on either number to $35 and lock up the extra buck. You'll need it for that $50 for $1 move next time that number hits.

At the $30 level on the six and eight the dealer is paying $35 same bet. You can take three red chips out of your rack, drop them on the layout and ask for $50 for $15. Three red chips out - two green chips in. Again, we're gaining ground.

Of course, if you're wearing cargo shorts or pants you can always fill those baggy pockets with chips. Just remember to keep your belt tight so you don't lose your pants from the weight of those chips.

Now, let me repeat something I hinted at earlier. If you are playing and you find your rack filling up with chips you should NEVER stack all of those chips out there and ask the dealer to color you up in the middle of the hand. The casino will love you for slowing down the game. The players will hate you.
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Re: What do you do when both racks are full?

Post by cubfan2121 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:42 pm

I havent gotten there yet but i did take my first loss today in my last 6 sessions. It got to the point where i was expecting to lose so it was easy walking away from a brutal table and taking the loss for $100

Session started out with first 6 shooters not being able to make a point. Many of them rolling less than 5 rolls which was good since i never really got place a bet down. I started to get impatient and started playing the passline for $10 but Table didnt get any better. Im not experienced enough to bet dark side yet for im still trying to settle in and work on my game.
Everyone at table was annoyed with the new dealer. She had a squeaky voice, kept picking the dice up and getting yelled at by pit boss, couldn't figure out any payments that weren't $10 increments, then kept talking to other casino employees. Of course after every rain delay shooter always managed to 7 out.
Long story short table was cold, got choppy, then went ice cold. You know its a bad day when your favorite shooter never made his first point after 3 attempts of receiving the dice. Then again there is always tomorrow.

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Re: What do you do when both racks are full?

Post by 220Inside » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:28 pm

Another move on the $30 6 and 8's is to drop $2 and go to $42. You'll get a green chip back for your 2 whites and now you're in the $50 for $1 territory on subsequent hits.

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Re: What do you do when both racks are full?

Post by Moe Bettor » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:05 am

Yes. Had a mass of red chips and told the dealer to just give me green on any payout. Got rid of a lot of whites and reds that way. Dealer told me the policy is to "color upwards" anyway. Well sure. Soon you are using green to play with. Advancing bets and losses.
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