The Repeater bet - a first look

[DarthNater]

What do we know & how do we strategize the Repeater Bet ? I've searched the forum, here's hoping for a productive discussion....

Background……
I’ve seen it at SunCoast and Gold Coast, but since I’ve been thrown out of both places, I haven’t done much analysis on it. Then earlier this month I see the Repeater at the primary craps table at M as they have resurfaced the table and instead of sticking with the ATS – they have added the Repeater Bet. For those that may not be familiar with it you can bet on the numbers repeating. Repeating the 2 twice pays 40 for 1, repeating the 3 thrice pays 50 for 1, repeating the 4 four times pays 60 for 1, repeating the 5 five times pays 80 for 1, and repeating the 6 six times pays 90 for 1. Tossing a seven wipes out all the counters and you start over – same as tossing a seven with the ATS. Payouts are similar for the 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12. Minimum bet is $1 on each (or any of the 10 numbers). Not sure what the max is.

So what Strategy to exploit?
Since I was standing at an empty table, I made a realtime decision. I opted to bet $1 each on the 2, 3, 4, 10, 11 & 12. My rationale was that if I had done Game within The Game and bet a Horn or World on the Come-out that that was either $4 or $5 dollars. I opted to add the 4 & 10, because I have been using the V-2 mutant which frankly spits out more horn numbers than I’d like (as Heavy is quick to notice last summer), and also gets a preponderance of 4s & 10s as well.

The first session……
With $5 on the line and $6 on the Repeaters, first toss a seven – reload the repeaters and this time went to a $10 PL. First toss 4 (one down-3 to go); then ace-deuce: back – to – back; a 6, 8, 12, 4 for the point two down two to go. 2nd come-out: Yo, aces, 8, 8. 3rd come-out: 4, 6, 5, 8, 4 (point and the repeater paid $60). Fourth come-out: aces (Repeater pays $40), ace-deuce ( bingo!! $50), 5, 8, 8, 10, 5. Fifth come-out: 9, 5, 4, 8, 7. Bottom line, good hand, put out $12 for repeaters, “earned $150 – not too shabby.

The second session…. One each, then a seven out, minus $6

The third session: 11, 12, 12 ($40!), 9, 8, 8, 7 $6 bet, $40 earned.

The fourth session…. Short hand…..nada… minus $6. on repeaters.

Final results for Repeaters only: $30 wagered, $190 earned for the 4 hands.

I’m interested to hear what others have done with the Repeater bets. Yeah, I know it’s a wee small sample size, and I read up on it in the Wizard of Odds since playing, and appreciate the flaws from a random perspective; but then ya gotta start somewhere…..

So let’s hear it, D.N8r

[heavy]

Howard and I did fairly well on the repeater bet in Vegas last year, particularly at Gold Coast. I don't recall exact numbers at this point, but it did put money in our pockets.

[London Shooter]

Played it briefly at Gold Coast with no success. Seem to recall playing it on 2,3, 11,12. One hand had a co7 and I wasn't allowed to reload and then went on to hit 3 x 11s

I'd probably stick to just playing the outside numbers next time I see it. If I have a decent hand with lots of box numbers, I should be making money there anyway, so the repeater could be a nice icing on the cake.

House edge is eye watering though - right up there with the firebet, so I'd keep this bet in perspective relative to buy-in with just two or three goes on my own throw only.

[DarthNater]

London,
Agree, I'd never drop a $1 on it for a randy. I see the four outsider numbers as strictly an add-on for a DI.
I like those four simply because I toss a lot of horn numbers - usually in bunches or alternately, so this is a way to play them for the length of the hand and not just ride/replenish the horn bet, or "see a horn - bet a horn". I'm usually on the inside numbers, so don't see the point of even considering those as a Repeater play. Though would consider the 4 & 10 on tables that I tiptoe in.

I'm indifferent to the house edge on the Fire Bet, I am always on it when I'm tossing; and kind of have the same outlook with the outside numbers here as DI kinda scrambles the house edge anyway.

What I'd like to know is - where is the Repeater game that the Wizard mentions where the repeater is OFF on a comeout - that's got me interested.

D.N8r

[Golfer]

Interesting. Anyone know about this bet being in Reno?

[Bankerdude80]

I've had some good sessions winning on the repeater at the Gold Coast. Repeating most horn numbers, especially the Ace-deuce. The seven-out on the Come Out is a killer for that bet. They don't let you go back up until the dice circle around again. I prefer the ATS and Fire bets to the repeater, but if my bankroll can afford it I usually give it a few tries.