Flat Betting

[wild child]

Since this has strayed into don't flat betting. Here are some advantages. Crowded table with jerks? No problem. You don't have to be a DI who has to get up at 5 in the morning to find a clear table. In fact you don't have to be a DI at all! No worries about table bounce..the more the merrier. EDE's? Bring them on! With your winnings you can tip a cocktail waitress to go around and tap shooters on the shoulder. Downside? You will not win a lot of money unless you play with a lot of money. No going from a $20 buy- in to a grand. To answer Irish's question..why don't we play the best bets? Cause it is boring and the nature of gamblers is to want excitement..which is contrary to making money most of the time. We can't all be like Dice Trakkr. He plays strictly to make money and is pretty damn good at it.

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Work eight ( 8 ) hours @ $20 per hour = $160 gross per eight ( 8 ) hours....
MINUS (-) THE TAKE AWAY STUFF = some lesser number $ net ( take home )
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Lay ( DARK SIDE ) Wager enough to win enough $ U S D to yield $20 per Lay Wager WON
TIMES TEN ( 10 ) in one hour = $200 gross minus voluntary contribution(s)
"work"a five ( 5 ) hour shift times (x) three (3) or four(4) days per week....
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Some folks could choose redefine BORING ......

just me saying
w c

[Moe Bettor]

A secure job at a craps table..hmm at $200/hr.Guaranteed w/no taxes? I'm in.

[wild child]

A secure job at a craps table..hmm at $200/hr.Guaranteed w/no taxes? I'm in.

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Guarantee ? Simply Never guaranteed at a CRAPS TABLE...

That is why craps is called GAMBLING.....

Casino gambling shares the feast or famine or better stated the CHICKEN or FEATHERS associated with 100 % COMMISSION SALES.
PERHAPS EVEN MORE SO

If you can tolerate THE RISK FACTOR, then craps could be a choice of CHALLENGING CAREER

just me saying

w c

[heavy]

. . . than 100 % COMMISSION SALES.

Or being in business for yourself where you are essentially "betting on the Come."

For what its worth, back in the 80's when I worked 100% commission sales - I was paid a minimum wage "draw" against commission. Minimum wage was around $3.50 an hour. I put in around sixty hours a week. Works out to around $200 a week. You might go six weeks without making a sale - putting you $1200 in the hole on your draw. Then you'd make a sale that paid a $6000 commission and they'd net out the draw and pay you $4800 - LESS TAXES. So you'd net around $830 a week. But SOMETIMES you'd hit a grand slam and make six . . . eight . . . ten of those sales in a pay period. Then you'd get anywhere from $36K to $60K in commissions (gross). And yes, I saw a number of paydays in that realm back in the day. The problem with getting a $60K payday when you are on 100% commission? The crap between year ears. You think "I got it made for the next six months. I'm just going to kick back and coast for awhile. Then you get in the habit of coasting instead of selling and the next thing you know you're looking for another of those "salaried man" jobs.

Personally, if I were going back into commission sales I'd tell the company that I did not want a "draw." More incentive to sell something - and I get to keep more of that lump sum when it hits the paycheck.

[Big O]

I have never considered myself a gambler and most of the people who have known me for a long time are surprised/shocked when they learn of my recent adventures into the casino/craps world. I still agonize over not gambling (betting ) enough on some really nice hands over the last few months. it wasnt all the fear of losing but just not knowing how to go about it.
Then i read Heavy's post and realized that even though i still havent placed a come bet at the tables i have been "betting on the come" ever since i opened my Archery shop 30 years ago this October. I have tried to be like a sponge and learn all i can from everyone on the forum and put in the practice to try and gain even the slightest edge on the tables. However i dont expect i will ever have the confidence/edge in craps that i have with the business decisions i have had to make over they years. In all fairness to my self, i took my first animal with a bow 56 years ago and won my first tournament forty years ago and i have only been playing craps "about a minute". I dont expect i will live or play long enough to ever outlay the cash on the table that i hang on my walls but i have progressed from pressing my 4 from table minimum $5 to $10 to pressing my $10 4 to $100. I know thats not earth shattering but baby steps. Hopefully soon i will combine new betting skills with a great roll, but i know i have heard on here at least once to tip toe or test the waters with your toes so thats the plan.

[wild child]

Attrition constantly eats up many a Buy In and Bank Rolls....
Unfortunately the unwary gamble their way into financial and even relationship ruin.....
In sales,I am told , the attrition factors into the choice of some other career most often in sales of
intangibles : insurance,mutual funds and perhaps multilevel ( pyramid schemes )......

Operating your own enterprise has got to be
a major undertaking
fraught with both
risk of ruin and opportunity for gain.

Dice is just plain always a Crap Shoot I M O.

Gauge it with a weathered eye and a player could come out ahead,if wise enough to take
to the the winnings Cashier's Cage .
Then only if a number of wins you hold out number the losses a player has overextend ...

Those who actually have it to teach THE WINNING WAYS are by far fewer than the frauds...

just me saying
w c