Craps Betting Strategy Game - New Thread

[Mad Professor]

My approach is somewhat more 'set' in that it views unknown-to-me dice-influencers in a "What will MOST LIKELY occur with MOST of them?" sort of way...or in other words, "What betting-strategy will MOSTLY fit all D-I's?"

While using a set-method like the MP $204-Across two-hit Regression certainly misses out on some of the 'six-Midnights-in-a-row' anomalies; it also seems to capture and retain more net-profit more often from a broad-range of variously-skilled dice-influencers.

In between the time I posted above until now, someone PM'd me to say that the MP-$204 would have something like $909 in-rack, with $242 on the table; but I haven't checked their math.

Of the many, many things I've gotten out of the still ongoing Testing, Testing Formulized Bet-Strategy thread; the one that sticks out is the fact that there's certainly more than one way to successfully skin the 'One Size Nearly Fits All' profit-seeking cat.


MP

[realtime]

While I know that all of you approached this game with a pre-set plan, I am of the opinion that any pre-set plan needs some pre-set flexibility built into it. If X happens I'm going to do Y. Example, if the shooter tosses six eights in a hand I'm going to do a full press on eight numbers three and five. Something to that effect. Of course, all of this requires that you pay attention and actually "work" at your betting strategy as the hand evolves. And every betting strategy should also include a "what if" worst-case scenario.

When we first started this exercise, I thought the intent was to test each strategy/system against the rolls that would follow. I did not understand until I noticed some players zigging and zagging that the exercise actually was just a virtual craps session where anything goes. Now I know.

[heavy]

Well, it's a little bit of both, I suppose. Frankly, I appreciate how many of you have stuck to your guns rather than chase the numbers that are rolling. You're made of sterner stuff than me. I'd be all over the six, eight, and nine right now and would probably have a little of the the ten as well. Meanwhile, back at the dice. Dice are out - shooter has 'em. They roll . . . SEVEN OUT - Line Down, Pay the Don'ts. Update those bets, please. While we're at it, sometime before roll time tomorrow would someone run a one post recap of all players current positions? Thanks. Let's hear where we stand, guys. New shooter coming out.

[realtime]

Through 11-7-9P-6-6-8-8-9W-4P-9-6-10H-9-6-2-8-9-6-2-8-8-9-9-7 End Shooter 1


1. Current bets: $0
2. Total left in rack: $585
3. Total bankroll - rack plus action: $585
4. Net win/loss as of current roll: $85
5. Brief explanation

Come out roll $10 doey/don't bet. ($10 on PL and $10 on DP)

Second roll after point is established $105 Iron Cross ($25 5, $30 6, $30 8, $20 field)

Collect on three individual rolls

Take down Iron Cross bets

If point is 6 or 8, take single odds.

If point is 5,9,4, or 10 lay single odds

Play until a decision is made.

Run "system" only once per shooter.

[acpa]

seven out I lose the $90 on the table.

no bet on the next come out

$620 in the rack

won $210
losses $90

net win $120

[DeadCat]

7-Out. LOL. Applause for the shooter. Nicley done. Lots of numbers not too much trash.

Last night, I was debating putting up some money on the 9 or regressing again. I came up with a compromise, keeping minimum action on the 6 and 8 and adding a minimum bet on the 9. The net result was to spread my action to include the 3 dominant numbers AND take some money off of the table. So no hit on that last 9 but I did put $8 more in my rack and lost less when the 7 came. Per-fect.


7 Out, lose $34

$00 On Table
$840.00 In Rack



$840 Total Bank

Nice Hand. Net +$340.00 from $500

Can I get that comped steak now please?

Nice hand, shooter. I managed to bump up my buy-in by 68%. No complaint there. When the 7 did come I had very little money left on the table, less than was out on most tosses. This was one of those hands that most players base their betting strategies on (start low and press). I took pretty much the reverse approach and did all right. Most of my profit was made in the first 2 rolls, the rest was gravy.

Is this the end or do we see another shooter?
-DC

[Roller123]

1. Current bet $0
2. Total left in rack $620
3. Total bankroll $620
4. Net win/loss $120

I'll wait until the next shooter to bet again.

Roller

[realtime]

Heavy,

I will do the results ciphering. Still waiting on final posts from wudged/al_falcons and taboo. Looks like aztek and Buy the Four dropped out as I don't see any recent posts.

Mike

[wudged]

seven out, lose 132 action

1. Current bets - $0
2. Total left in rack - $655
3. Total bankroll - $655
4. Net win/loss - $155
5. Explanation of strategy - $66 inside for one hit, regress to $44 inside for 1 hit, then place 6/8 for $12 each. use MP's passive aggressive from there forward

al_falcons:
seven out, lose 84 action
1. Current Bets - $0
2. Total left in rack - $696
3. Total bankroll - $696
4. Net win/loss - $196
5. Explanation of strategy - placing 6 and 8 for $12 each. will press the number that hits $6 each time

[realtime]

Final results through first shooter. (Total bankroll)

deadcat 840
Buy the Four ? no recent updates
taboo 781
Roller123 620
Aztek ? no recent updates
wudged 655
al_falcons 696
Little Joe 515
realtime 585
acpa 620

Players, please let me know if I recorded your total bankroll incorrectly.

[heavy]

Reminder - the session length on this "game" was pre-set at 30 rolls. Once we reach 30 rolls we'll continue to play until the next seven-out. Thanks for your continued participation, guys.

[realtime]

Through 11-7-9P-6-6-8-8-9W-4P-9-6-10H-9-6-2-8-9-6-2-8-8-9-9-7 End Shooter 1


Bet $10 PL, $10DP

1. Current bets: $20
2. Total left in rack: $565
3. Total bankroll - rack plus action: $585
4. Net win/loss as of current roll: $85
5. Brief explanation

Come out roll $10 doey/don't bet. ($10 on PL and $10 on DP)

Second roll after point is established $105 Iron Cross ($25 5, $30 6, $30 8, $20 field)

Collect on three individual rolls

Take down Iron Cross bets

If point is 6 or 8, take single odds.

If point is 5,9,4, or 10 lay single odds

Play until a decision is made.

Run "system" only once per shooter.

[heavy]

New shooter coming out. Shooter has 'em. She sets the dice and tosses . . . . TEN easy. That ten rolled six-four. Good in the Field. Get those odds bets, place bets, come bets, prop and hop bets in early.

[DeadCat]

I missed being ready for the firt toss of the second shooter. i am still waiting for that comp so I might just back out here. I'll let you know befor the next toss.

-DC

[realtime]

Through 11-7-9P-6-6-8-8-9W-4P-9-6-10H-9-6-2-8-9-6-2-8-8-9-9-7 End Shooter 1
Through 10P

Will wait one roll to bet. Sure do hate those PSO's.......... well at least when playing the rightside.

1. Current bets: $20
2. Total left in rack: $565
3. Total bankroll - rack plus action: $585
4. Net win/loss as of current roll: $85
5. Brief explanation

Come out roll $10 doey/don't bet. ($10 on PL and $10 on DP)

Second roll after point is established $105 Iron Cross ($25 5, $30 6, $30 8, $20 field)

Collect on three individual rolls

Take down Iron Cross bets

If point is 6 or 8, take single odds.

If point is 5,9,4, or 10 lay single odds

Play until a decision is made.

Run "system" only once per shooter

[Roller123]

1. Current bet $120 6, $120 8, and $60 Field bet
2. Total left in rack $320
3. Total bankroll $620
4. Net win/loss $120

Strategy- Take advantage of another long roll by regressing to a $60 6, $60 8, and $30 Field after two rolls. Then only $30 at risk until after one more roll then all bets paid for.


Roller

[wudged]

easy 10

1. Current bets - $15 5, $18 6, $18 8, $15 9 Total action: $66
2. Total left in rack - $589
3. Total bankroll - $655
4. Net win/loss - $155
5. Explanation of strategy - $66 inside for one hit, regress to $44 inside for 1 hit, then place 6/8 for $12 each. use MP's passive aggressive from there forward

al_falcons:
easy 10
1. Current Bets - $12 6, $12 8 Total action: $24
2. Total left in rack - $672
3. Total bankroll - $696
4. Net win/loss - $196
5. Explanation of strategy - placing 6 and 8 for $12 each. will press the number that hits $6 each time

[heavy]

Well, here we go. Somebody give me those "fight night dice" and let's switch them into the game. Dice are out. Shooter has 'em. She rolls . . . 3 craps.

Let's get those updates in early.

[Roller123]

$60 Field win. Same bet.

1. Current bet $120 6, $120 8, and $60 Field bet
2. Total left in rack $380
3. Total bankroll $680
4. Net win/loss $180

Strategy- Take advantage of another long roll by regressing to a $60 6, $60 8, and $30 Field after two rolls. Then only $30 at risk until after one more roll then all bets paid for.


Roller

[realtime]

Through 11-7-9P-6-6-8-8-9W-4P-9-6-10H-9-6-2-8-9-6-2-8-8-9-9-7 End Shooter 1
Through 10P-3

Something feels weird about this roll. Intuition perhaps? Will wait to see one more roll before going up on the I/C.

1. Current bets: $20
2. Total left in rack: $565
3. Total bankroll - rack plus action: $585
4. Net win/loss as of current roll: $85
5. Brief explanation

Come out roll $10 doey/don't bet. ($10 on PL and $10 on DP)

Second roll after point is established $105 Iron Cross ($25 5, $30 6, $30 8, $20 field)

Collect on three individual rolls

Take down Iron Cross bets

If point is 6 or 8, take single odds.

If point is 5,9,4, or 10 lay single odds

Play until a decision is made.

Run "system" only once per shooter