Blackjack without busting.

[Irukanji]

The house has two ways to win. 1) You bust. 2) They have the better hand than yours.

So if you take your busting out of the equation, you will have two ways to win over them. 1) The house busts. 2)You have the better hand. The only way the house can win is if they have the better hand. Not by you busting.

So it's 2-1 ways to win in your favor.

Just stand on a twelve or better. This negates the chance to bust. The only way the house will win is if the dealer has a better hand than you. Of course if you do this at the table, a lot of other players will get mad at you because you are not following the supposed 'rules' of BJ betting strategy. Wear some earplugs and ignore them all. Then if you add card counting in the mix ( I don't know how and can't be bothered),it's a different ballgame.

Flat bet but increase on a win. Back to minimum bet on a loss then start all over again. How much to increase? All up to you. What is your comfort level? Or employ whatever betting strategy you want. Up a unit, parlay, etc.

I did not come up with this. I saw a video on Youtube and wanted to share the idea with you guys. Don't even remember the title of the video.

What do you guys think?

[mssthis1]

Using a never bust strategy the house edge is around 4%, depending on the table rules. I will have to admit that the first time ever playing blackjack in the 90's that's the way I played. Bought in for $20 at a $2 table and left with $60. Thought I'd found the keys to the vault. lol. That feeling didn't last long.

To have a chance at BJ move to a different table if you lose 3 in a row. Move to a different table if nobody is getting any Black Jacks. Move to a different table if you're having to split pairs more than normal. Move to the different table if you or the dealer are getting a 7, 8 or 9 up with a 7,8 or 9 in the hole very often. Move to a different table if the dealer's 4,5 or 6 up card has a 5 or 6 in the hole more than normal. The last 2 are real important. If you're playing one on one and getting a lot of 20/20 pushes with 4 face cards it would also be a good idea to move.

All of those are signs of poorly washed cards and it take 4 shoes minimum to get them randomized. If they use a shuffle machine make that 8 shoes minimum.

[Irukanji]

Interesting! What if you don't do anything other than stand on a 12? Just stick to it? No splitting, no doubling down? No matter what table rules, nothing else! And just employing your betting strategy?

Wouldn't it come down to luck of the draw? But you having some sort of control/limit by not busting unlike Baccarat?

[London Shooter]

I'm thinking April 1st has come early this year

[Knick111]

march 22 2018.,

London shooter, that tape that you saw on youtube is a system that was sold by that person for $300 dollars, is really 2 tapes.

If you notice on those tapes AT no time does he wins WHEN he is showing you how to play the system. then he tells you that if you are losing you must stop playing at that blackjack table and move to a table that the dealer is losing, how do you know when the dealer is losing?

In the long run you will lose all your money BECAUSE THE HOUSE HAS a 4 per cent advantage.
Now ask your self, if a person has a winning system WHY will he sell it to the public

Here is a better way to play that system.
You will not win , but you will be playing longer on that table OR any other table in that casino,

When the dealer is showing a 7 or 8 or 9 or 10 AND you have a 2 or 3 TAKE A HIT, IF YOU HAVE a 4 or 5 or 6
you must not take a hit. This is a better way to play that system, NOW ask yourself why would a person that claims that he has a system to beat blackjack sell it to the public?

Jaime.
PS---Any time you win LET IT RIDE ON THE NEXT HAND. How to bet this system, first 4 hands 5 dollars

next 4 hands 10 dollars, last 4 hands 20 dollars , total bankroll $ 140 dollars.

[Irukanji]

Jaime1943, what is the house advantage on the system you posted above? I wonder how effective it is and weather there are other 'rules' involved?

[Knick111]

March 22 2018. Greeting Irukanji,

Iru wants to know how effective is my system? LIKE any other system out there, in the long run you will be a loser., there are no other rules Iru.
The house advantage on my system is------ unknown by me.
If Heavy or any other person wants to tackle the math on this system, go for it. Jaime.

[House of Orange]

So in a good rules Black Jack game you give up 50 cents per $100 wagered. With this method you give up $4. What am I missing (Besides April Fool)?

[heavy]

I'd feel about a BJ system sold on YouTube - about the same as I'd feel about a dice setting system sold on YouTube. All you have to do is look at those guys dice flying through the air and you know there's nothing to it.

At least this thread is in the correct sub-board. Thanks for that, Jaime.

Want to talk about winning? Last week I found a pocket knife in my night stand drawer that I'd been missing for 12 years. It's in my pocket right now. Later I may take it out and look at it just to remind myself how much I like that knife. I might even use it to trim some coupons so I can make a coupon run tomorrow. Then again, I may eat breakfast in the morning then go back to bed. First day in Vegas - a success. Plus $16 on slots.

[London Shooter]

This "no bust" strategy would be a bit like playing single European roulette at the Cromwell and then deciding to go up the road to the Venetian to play on their 000 table.

[stratocasterman]

Say what you will but, using a 13 level negative progression on the web's BlackJack Strategy Trainer, I beat it 24 out of 25 times with an average win of $100 in about 30 hands.

[mssthis1]

Say what you will but, using a 13 level negative progression on the web's BlackJack Strategy Trainer, I beat it 24 out of 25 times with an average win of $100 in about 30 hands.

I have found that RNG Blackjack sims have less volatility than live games because a RNG doesn't wash the cards with the resulting variance and is using one shoe instead of two. A continuous shuffle game probably is the closest to mimicking a RNG game.

The first time you get a hand on a high negative number where you have to split and double several times and lose all of them will be catastrophic.

[bobr]

Move to a different table if nobody is getting any Black Jacks.

I might increase my bet if I'm not seeing a lot of faces and aces...

If you're playing one on one and getting a lot of 20/20 pushes with 4 face cards it would also be a good idea to move.

This one we can agree on! If the tens are gone, so is the fun.

- Bob

[stratocasterman]

Hi strato,
Curious, what is the net winning after a 24-1 record? Is the 13 level negative progression a fibo, martingale, grand martingale? What are the 13 levels of it?

The risk with any multi-level negative progression, perhaps more so with a 13 level one, is the effect of multiple losses in a short period of time. For example, how would you feel about it if your record ended up 23-2 but the first two times were losses? The answer might be tied to the steepness of the 13 level progression.

Scout...I didn't really keep up with net winnings. I would just stop after a $100 profit or loss each time, trying to keep the number of session games played, to a minimum. With the 13 level negative progression, ANY initial loss(s) is(are) a huge bummer but, I would think it should average back out to a profit over the long run. I'm not exactly sure about Black Jack but, I have tested Baccarat quite a bit.

The 13 level negative progression I like the most is 1,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,8,12,15,28,36.

As promised, I will very soon post a Baccarat strategy thread which does contain a variation of this progression testing from myself and others.

Mssthis1...I DO agree about the RNGs!