Higher minimums ....

[Parson]

So how are you all playing the higher minimums with fewer players at the tables? especially those 25$ tables? $110, 220 inside? Even numbers? One hit and regress? Theres a lot of options, but primarily since those 25s can hurt ya fast, whats your strategy?
ONe hit cant mis is an easy answer, but are you doing it? How are you betting you own toss?
I have even been wargaming old school Come bets some ... with a $30 six and eight.

What about odds on your pass? Single double or what?

[House of Orange]

Having trouble with $25 tables, I will not lie. 60X buy in equals $1500 even that is probably not enough. 44 inside now looks like $240. So line bet plus double odds we are almost at $300. You better know the table bounce characteristics before you lay down that kind of money.

[wild child]

Las Vegas and surrounding Clark County have endured
adversity, extremely.brutal forces of nature
and BOOM/BUST economy since it's way on early founding.

Early settlers established a presence when they called the
future "Sin City " Morman Wells.
Eventually those Morman Wells pioneers
felt unwelcomed and left the settlement.

Time marched on and enough numbers of well funded adventurous folks
set up housekeeping and marked the map Las Vegas, Nevada
( Las Vegas translates to Spanish for "The Meadows")
so the R R Train driver could find the destination.

( not to be confused with other settlements
aka as Las Vegas like Las Vegas, New Mexico
and
perhaps at least one other state)*

In my opinion, the economic facts of life are driving
a degree of inflation across the national and perhaps GLOBAL REALITIES.

Perhaps cash buyers will find
lower-priced Real Estate
in some "Last Resort Housing Markets"
when condos on Tropicana closed for UNDER $20K
or waterfront Real Estate on Lake Mead saw some degree of price depreciation.

We may not soon see $2,$3,$5 minimum Table Games
Even $10 /$15 minimums table could become rare

Possibly the stadium type video of live dealer involved options
will replace how players get their action fix,

Live players could sign up on a WAITING LIST
for "a place at the table"
simular to the POKER ROOM PLAYERS call list for vacated spots.

just me saying ( and ok with me if guessed incorrect)
w c

* care to guess another state in the USA is also has a town named Las Vegas

[DarthNater]

So how are you all playing the higher minimums with fewer players at the tables? especially those 25$ tables? $110, 220 inside? Even numbers? One hit and regress? Theres a lot of options, but primarily since those 25s can hurt ya fast, whats your strategy?
ONe hit cant mis is an easy answer, but are you doing it? How are you betting you own toss?
I have even been wargaming old school Come bets some ... with a $30 six and eight.

What about odds on your pass? Single double or what?

I try to win my first two DPs, I leave them naked. Unless I see a six or eight, I wait on OHCM. My goal is to have a couple of hits before I get the dice.

When I get to toss, first question is do I know the table? Then am I in a practiced position. If no to both of the above, I generally play a DP and place the sister, and then proceed with “table research”. If I’m knowledgeable on the table and position, I’ll place six and eight if neither is a point, and also do the heatseeker Come bet. Normally I follow with a second come bet, generally one of those two will go to the six or eight; then it’s toss, toss, toss.....

DN8R

[Riggs]

At least for the pass line seems fairly logical to do a doey-don't and pick odds for which way you go ... of course, paying the "tax" of covering with a 12 for a $12 on comeouts. IF doey-don'ts are allowed.

[Moe Bettor]

I'm with Nate. On a $25 table, no DC bets on randies UNLESS the table is exhibiting lousy short rolls. I use the $25 DP with $30 odds and throw for the seven. If I knock myself off I'll double everything for one more when my turn comes around and then goodbye. Get the money to play with early or take a hike.

[Parson]

So line bet plus double odds we are almost at $300. You better know the table bounce characteristics before you lay down that kind of money.

What about 60 on six and eight, sniping for them with one come bet? Take the money and regress? I was raking both to 90 and second hit dropping both to 30 or 60 and collecting the 105 plus the regression amount.

[House of Orange]

So line bet plus double odds we are almost at $300. You better know the table bounce characteristics before you lay down that kind of money.

What about 60 on six and eight, sniping for them with one come bet? Take the money and regress? I was raking both to 90 and second hit dropping both to 30 or 60 and collecting the 105 plus the regression amount.

My point was, after the come out cycle, your question created a situation of using almost 20% of a $1500 buy in, on the first roll of the dice. Better know what you are doing, disaster looms.

[Parson]

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That’s why i am asking the question, surely we all dont just do 25 dp shoot for seven every 45 mins when we get the dice..

Looking for thoughts on ways to catch the game without so much exposure.

6 and 8 working? Thats $60 exposed plus pass line to crap number, that can be hedged but is it worth it. Miss on the 6 or 8 then ya got say a nine ..... come bet? Or shoot for six and eight or nine?

[Riggs]

At least for the pass line seems fairly logical to do a doey-don't and pick odds for which way you go ... of course, paying the "tax" of covering with a 12 for a $12 on comeouts. IF doey-don'ts are allowed.

[snark]Doubling the amount you're holding up against the HA, then adding a double digit HA wager to the mix is definitely the "logical" way to go.[/snark]

I note that you are paying the "tax" (higher house advantage) - did NOT say it was a smart play. But if someone desperately wants to play and can't afford $25 minimums this is simply a way around that ... paying extra to effectively turn it into a $5 table.
P.S. I would never do it.

[Moe Bettor]

Yes. Either way after the CO you are left with a $25 bet out there so stupid question here..how does it become a $5 table for the shooter? Unless you're saying it allows the player to make $5 bets on the popcorn in the middle..? I'm missing something here.

[220Inside]

Yes. Either way after the CO you are left with a $25 bet out there so stupid question here..how does it become a $5 table for the shooter? Unless you're saying it allows the player to make $5 bets on the popcorn in the middle..? I'm missing something here.

The doey don't bets need to be different amounts in order to change the "effective" minimum that the player is trying to achieve. Betting the same amount on the pass and don't pass doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

So in the case of a $25 table and trying to make it an "effective $5 min", you need to make one bet at $25 and the other at $30. Which one you make at $30 is based on which way you want to play, dark side or right side.

And playing that game only as an effect on the PL/DP bets. You are still playing a $25 game with any additional place or come/don't come bets unless you want to offset all of those as well which is silly, since if you have the bankroll to do that, why are you even attempting to do this in the first place?

[Moe Bettor]

Got it. Thanks. Would never do it anyway. I like Nate's play..or actually mine. Vacation up in the smokies near Cherokee NC sept 1. Cabin. 2 cars so I can hit the big casino in Cherokee along the meth highway. Any plans yet?

[220Inside]

Got it. Thanks. Would never do it anyway. I like Nate's play..or actually mine. Vacation up in the smokies near Cherokee NC sept 1. Cabin. 2 cars so I can hit the big casino in Cherokee along the meth highway. Any plans yet?

Not for me yet with everything going on. Sadly my prediction this winter of this looking like a lost year for craps is coming to fruition for me.

[heavy]

While playing a $25 game in Kansas City a guy bought in next to me (behind me in the hook on the SR side of the table) for $27. I thought WTF? I tossed a few times and out of hte blue the guy dropped his green chip in the Field. I tossed aces and he picked up three green chips. Awhile later he dropped all three greein in the Field and I tossed an eleven. He picked up three more green and I said, "Why didn't you get a $75 horn? He said, "I know, right?" We engbaged in a little friendly banter as I continued to toss the odd Field number and his timing was impeccable. His $150 want to $300, then $600, then $1200. And I'm thinking to myself, "This idiot bought in for $27 freaking dollars and now he has $1200. And then he said "Ima go all in on you again," and dropped the entire $1200 in the Field. An I tossed a hard Eight. I turned to "apologize" but he was already walking away with those two odd dollars from his $27 buy in in his hand. From $1200 to $2 in one toss of the dice. Genius. That's gambling.

[Riggs]

Well, Then we're more aligned. If a player is both "desperate" and unable to "afford" to play at the table minimum, my point is that it's more logical to not play. However, you are not effectively making it a $5 table. A doey-don't is two wagers. Both at the mercy of the HA. They only offset in a players mind. The house doesn't like it sometimes because the house is stupid. They should LOVE a player that on a $500 min table bets $500 pass and $505 DP (or vice versa). Twice the amount wagered against the HA.

Agree 100% - was not saying in any that it was smart. Was just saying it was a way to do it ... I didn't specify $30 and $25 cuz I didn't want confuse the issue by choosing which side was pass and which side don't pass.
Player might be able to scrape together $200 bankroll and only want to wager $5 pass line and $10 odds and a couple come bets like that. Using $25-$30 and $10 odds lets them do that with the added "tax" betting the hedge 12 for $1.
Not a smart play but it does what it does.