6/8 strategy

[heavy]

I thought I'd bump up this classic thread on betting the six and eight. You'll see some different approaches here you might like. Check them out, give us your thoughts and add your own spins if you wish.

[Parson]

As much as I like to take the first hit to the rack, on these 25$ tables of late, i often start with 60 on each.. first hit take both to 90 ... third hit take 105 and regress to 60 or 30 each.

[220Inside]

As much as I like to take the first hit to the rack, on these 25$ tables of late, i often start with 60 on each.. first hit take both to 90 ... third hit take 105 and regress to 60 or 30 each.

What happened to the second hit

[Parson]

As much as I like to take the first hit to the rack, on these 25$ tables of late, i often start with 60 on each.. first hit take both to 90 ... third hit take 105 and regress to 60 or 30 each.

What happened to the second hit

Lol, well either it was so fast the stick missed it, or .... i proved my inept typing skills and should have said, second hit take 105 and reduce.

[stingray]

Every strategy works until it doesn't. The pleathora of possible scenarios is endless. We all know the sheriff is coming sooner or later. Playing conservative with scared money or playing aggressively with no fear can have wonderful or lousy outcomes. Finding your own balance of risk versus reward is something only you can honestly determine that suits you.
Irish had a $15 five and nine. One hit pays $21. Then regress five and nine to ten dollars each and you have $1 profit with action on the table. One hit and you are in profit without risking a lot.
So going along these lines a $24 six and eight pays $28 then regress to $12 six and eight with fours dollars profit.
One hit and you have profit and action. Not a huge amount of initial outlay but enough that might make some squirmish if you go through a drought of no paying hits. Anything can happen.

[heavy]

Speaking of regressions - I get so sick of looking at YouTube channels people send me links to with various "dice controllers" teaching "shots" and betting "experts" teaching strategies. Last night a pal sent me a link to an idiot with his "Regression avoids Depression" strategy. I'm thinking, "What the hell?" I guess he's just reading Mad Professor's book and creating YouTube videos directly from the book. I know, I know. You can't copyright a betting strategy - only the exact wording you use to describe it. But this one was flirting with copyright infringement. I guess imitation is the greatest form of flattery. But I never feel that way when people steal my stuff and use it on those videos without permission or at least an acknowledgement and link-back. So there you go. I consider them fleas.

[stingray]

Heavy
Over the years you have tried probably every betting strategy. I know you are a fan of power pressing.
When I don't power press and flat bet the session money stays the same or slightly decreases. By power pressing my wins are larger. With power pressing getting a second hit you are in the profit.

Wizard had a betting strategy of
$120 6&8. One hit pays $140
First hit press 6&8 up to $180 each and rack $20
$220 now at risk for a potential payout of $210 on the next hit.

How would you play this?

Would you only press the number that hit or would you regress and cover the inside numbers with that $140 payout?

[220Inside]

I've become a fan of Heavy's dominant number approach and use my first press move to power press the number that hit. I rarely do sister number presses anymore and want numbers to pay their own rent.

[Parson]

I've become a fan of Heavy's dominant number approach and use my first press move to power press the number that hit. I rarely do sister number presses anymore and want numbers to pay their own rent.

I appreciate that reply, I too am struggling with good solid strategies ... I have started pushing my primary numbers more often ... a lot of wargaming left to do at nights these days.

[heavy]

Wizard had a betting strategy of $120 6&8. One hit pays $140. First hit press 6&8 up to $180 each and rack $20. $220 now at risk for a potential payout of $210 on the next hit. How would you play this? Would you only press the number that hit or would you regress and cover the inside numbers with that $140 payout?

My apologies for the delayed response. I missed your earlier question. First off, I would not bet $120 on the six and eight because it's out of sync with my normal betting patterns and I don't want to have to re-sync those synapses at my age. I'd be more likely to play $90 on the Six and eight. First hit - take the number that hits to $180. Same bet the sister. That would be MY play. With that said . . .

When Playing the six and eight at lower levels sometimes I'll make an INITIAL pair press. For example, on an $18 six and eight the first hit pays $21. I might drop $3 and press both to $30. The next hit will pay $35 and I'd lock that up. Then on the following hit I'd press only the number that hit to $60 while same betting the sister. Each number would press according to its own schedule at that point. My preference with this play is to press every other hit in $30 increments, although once I surpass the $90 level I'll sometimes go from $90 - $180 - $420 - $900, etc. - my old standard progressions.

If I WERE playing at the $120 level I'm thinking I'd like to take both to $180 and lock up $10. Then on the next hit go same bet and lock up $210. That's $220 off the table and only $20 of sevens exposure. On the next hit you get paid $210 - Drop $30 and go right to $420. Then you collect $500 for $10 on the next hit. This is, of course, with you as the shooter.

Now WTF. As long as we're getting the six and eight big let's go to a $100 table. $300 each on the Six and Eight. First hit pays $350. Press both the Six and Eight to $420 and lock up $110. The second hit on either pays $500 for $10 and you're bets are paid for. Take them down and you have a $340 profit locked up on two hit.

This is what insomnia does for you folks. Of course, my math may be wrong on some of those calculations at this hour. LOL.

[stingray]

Heavy
Win huge if you win which makes up for all the smaller loses and lose smaller amounts when you lose.
I like your style.
You got to make some money to cover those loses.

[heavy]

As long as we're getting the six and eight big let's go to a $100 table. $300 each on the Six and Eight. First hit pays $350. Press both the Six and Eight to $420 and lock up $110. The second hit on either pays $500 for $10 and you're bets are paid for. Take them down and you have a $340 profit locked up on two hit.

Actually, I was just giving you the steroidal version of my $25 table play on the six and eight. $30 each. First hit press both to $42 and lock up $11. Next hit collect $50 for $1 and everything is paid for. Initial investment $60 and $60 off the table. Collect the next hit for an additional $49 profit, then start power pressing.