Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum

To me, this shot has so many things working against it, that I can't envision it ever being successful over any long haul. There are way too many moving parts that have the potential for introducing all sorts of randomness into the shot that run against the basic tenets of DI - this circle motion introduces all sorts of planes that must be kept in sync and repeated for the result of the shot to be anything less than random. The angle of the dice, hand and wrist position throughout the circle, consistent release point at the end of the motion, etc.

"Even a bad throw is only a dollar yo and a $3 any 7 away from greatness"

Jamie Garcia - not the baseball player

Greeting London Shooter,

London shooter One

Puerto Rican zero.

London Shooter has given me a new name, now i am JAMIE GARCIA.

Jaime Garcia---not the baseball player.

Goodmorning members,

Jan 19 2017 -------third day.

6-3 2-1 2-1 6-2 5-4 5-5 6-5 4-1 [[ 6-1 ]]--- seven out. 9 throws.

4-4 4-4 5-4 6-5 4-2 6-5 1-2 6-4 [[ 4-3 ]] seven out. ...9 throws.

6-2 3-2 ........Had to stop for today because i have reached my 20 throw limit.

I used the hardway set today, 4-4 facing up AND 2-2 facing me.

Today i threw 10 inside numbers using the hardway set.

Till we meet again....... Jaime 1943.

Snake eyes, happy belated 69th birthday.
It's the onetime you want to "act" your age! Lmao

Tonybugs

Greetings Guys/gals,

Jan 20 2017...........todays 20 throws. day 4 .

3-2 5-1 6-2 [[ 6-1 ]] 7 out .... 4 throws.

5-3 6-3 6-4 4-1 3-2 4-4 1-1 5-1 [[ 6-1 ]] 9 throws

5-1 6-4- [[ 6-1 ]] s ev en out. ]] .3 throws.

6-4 6-4- 4-4 [[ 5-2 ]]had to stop..reached my 20 throws for today.

threw with the hardway...4-4 2-2.

results...threw 11 inside numbers. Jaime.

Goodmorning members,

Jan 21 2017.. 2-1 ........Day 5.......of 20 throws.

3-2 6-4 5-3 2-1 4-1 3-2 6-6 4-2 5-5 5-5 4-2 4-2

[[ 6-1 ]] seven out. ......13 throws.

4-2 4-1 5-5 4-1 [[ 4-3 ]] seven out. 5 throws.

5-4 [[ 6-1 ]] seven out............... 2 throws.

used the hardway set 4-4 2-2 Today.
threw 20 times--- had 11 inside numbers.

Till we meet again. Jaime 1943.

Jamie, if you were betting these results with your standard strategy, how would it be going?

Greetings mate.london shooter,

I do not have a standard strategy for the inside play, because i only play the field.

Those first 100 throws were to see how i would do with the inside numbers. I think i threw well hiting inside numbers.

The next 100 throws, i will throw with the dice set for the field bet. And keed track of the results, and get back to you.

Jaime 1943.

Jaime-- love to see a video of your doing the shot.

I would like to offer you a different way to track numbers, Jaime. I'll use some of your numbers but modify the presentation:

6-3, 2-1, 2-1, 6-2, 5-4 Pass. 5-5, 6-5, 4-1,

6-1 Seven Out

4-4, 4-4 Pass, 5-4, 6-5, 4-2, 6-5, 1-2, 6-4,

4-3 Seven Out.

6-2,3-2

Stopped for the day.

3-2, 5-1, 6-2,

6-1 Seven Out

5-3, 6-3, 6-4, 4-1, 3-2, 4-4 Pass, 1-1, 5-1,

6-1 Seven Out

5-1, 6-4,

6-1 Seven Out

6-4, 6-4 Pass, 4-4

5-2 Seven Out

3-2, 6-4, 5-3, 2-1, 4-1 Pass, 3-2, 6-6, 4-2, 5-5, 5-5,4-2, 4-2

6-1 Seven Out

4-2, 4-1, 5-5, 4-1,

4-3 Seven Out

5-4

6-1 Seven Out

This type of tracking makes it simpler for you to visualize the number of rolls between sevens. You write the sevens on a separate line every time. It's also easier to track for patterns this way. You can see if the number of rolls between sevens is expanding or contracting. If I'm charting your hands this tells me which way I want to bet next time you get the dice. I may well be wrong in that choice, but at least I based it on something other than just betting the same way every hand.

Greetings Heavy,
As you know, i have spoken on this subject of field betting , where i say that the only way to beat this game of craps is by teaching your self how to shoot field numbers, the next 100 shots that i will keep track of will be THE WAY YOU TOLD ME TO DO.

They will be with the 2-2 facing up and the 1-3 facing me., betting the field my way which i have posted more then once on this board.

I will be using the circle shot , which i still say is the best shot i have ever develop in 60 years of practice in my life time.I AM 73 YEARS OLD, i started to practice when i was 13.

The person that asked me to post a video of this shot, sorry but this shot is only for Heavy's members.
I told you how to toss this shot.
Start reading this thread from the start, their you will find how to throw this shot.

As you know, every dice shot can be improved, so starting tomorrow i will start on how to make this shot even better.

So london shooter, Heavy and members please wait for my next post on sunday. i wish i could write better in english.

Jaime 1943.

Good morning snakeeyes,

I have notice that when i release the dice on top of the
circle shot, they leave my hands the same way that when
i shoot from the deck.

At this moment what i am doing is an experiment to see how far i can take this shot, it filles so natural when i release the dice. remember when you used to play baseball and you hit a home run, that how it filles like.

I try not to throw like a randie this circle shot.

Who knows, maybe this is the shot that craps players will be using 5 years from now.

Snakeyes , how did you do at the casino on your birthday?

Have you tried the circle shot yet.?


Take care my friend.-------Jaime 1943.

Good Afternoon heavy and irish and members,

Jan 22 2017......here is todays throws using the
2-2 looking up AND 3-1 facing me.

I will be shooting 20 throws to see how i can do
betting the field.

I will be betting the same way i used to bet,
before i retire for Health reasons.

please notice , i will be making a hedge bet on the come out, on the 7 and the 11.
I do not want to start losing 100 dollars, on the come out.

come out....... will be using the circle shot.

3-3 3-5 6-4 6-4 6-5-6-5 [[ 3-3 pass ]] 7 shots.
Won 308 dollars AND lost 84 dollars.

C.O.. 4- 1 3-3 6-5 3-2 [[ 5-2 ]] Seven out..5 shots. won 16 dollars AND lost 84 dollars..

lost 68 dollars on those 5 shots.

6-4 5-1 5-4 3-2 3-2 4-1 6-5 6-3 [[ 8 shots ]]
AT this point i had to stop because i reahed my 20 shots for the day.

I threw 9 field numbers
I threw11 inside numbers. Coments please.

Jaime 1943.

Greetings guys,

Today i am taking a break , i will be trying for fun to see how many horn numbers i can throw for Heavy.

Will be throwing the 6-5 facing up-and the 2-1 facing me. 20 throws.

2-2 4-2 [[ 4-3 ]] seven out....3 shots.

6-5 HORN ]] 4 5-3 2-4-2 [[ 2-1 ]] HORN 4-2 6-4 4-4 3=1 [[ 5-4 PASS ]] 10 SHOTS.

C. O. 4-3 PAY THE LINE. 1 SHOT.

C.O 2-1 [ HORN ] 6-6 [ HORN ]..3-2 4-3 seven out. 4 shots.

6-4 6-3.....Had to stop-- reached 20 shots for today. 2 shots.

Heavy, is not easy to throw horn numbers whrn you are trying to throw them, but when you are not trying to throw them they come in bunches.

THREW 4 HORNS FOR HEAVY.... sorry about that.... Jaime 1943.

greetings guys/gals,

Jan 23 2017........will shoot hardway today.4-4 2-2.will shoot for inside numbers with the circle shot.

4-3--pay the line. 1 shot.

4-2- 5-2 seven out. 2 shot.

6-3 6-2 6-4 2-1 6-2 [[ 6-1 ]] seven out 6-shots.

5-5 3-2 [[ 6-1 ]] 7 out...3 shots.

2-1 2-1 5-4 4-1 3-2 3-3 6-4 6-4 8 shots HAD TO STOP BECAUSE I REACHED 20 SHOTE FOR THE DAY.


HAD 9 INSIDE NUMBER from 20 shots.

Jaime 1943.

Greetings guys/gals/,

jan 27 2017.

looking for inside numbers with new set,2-3 1-5

will shoot 20 times.

6-3 2-1 6-5 5-5 5-1 2-1 5-1 2-2 6-4 [[ 6=3 ]]pass 10 shots.

new come out. 1-1 4-4 1-2 3-1
[[ 4-3 ]] 7 out. 5- shots.

new come out. 4-3]]] pay the line. 1 shot.

new come out. 3-1 3-2 6-5 5-4 had to stop, took 20 shots for the day.

Today threw 7 inside numbers.

threw 13 fields numbers.



I think this dice set is not a inside numbers set,
but it is a field numbers set.

Tomorrow i will be shooting for field numbers ,
with this dice set.

Till we meet again. Jaime 1943.

Goodmorning,

1/28/ 2017.......7:am.

Had a cup of coffe, will be using the circle shot.
lets see how many fields numbers i can get with this dice set, 2-3 facing up and 1-5 facing you.

5-5 6-5 4-4 3-1 5-4 1-1 6-6 2-1 [[ 5-2 ]]seven out. 9 shots.

6-2 5-3 pass.......2 shots.

6-6 3 3 3-2 5-4 3-1 6-3 3-1 5-4 3-2.......Had to stop , reached 20 shots for the day.9 shots

Today i shot 13 field numbers.

...............7 inside numbers.

That dice set looks like a keeper for field numbers. will use it again tomorrow, to see if is
a keeper .coments.

Greetings members,

Jan 31 2017, today will be shooting for the field numbers again,Will be youseng the circle shot.

5-5 5-3 -[[ 6-1 ]] 7 out........3 shots.

4-4 3-1 4-2 [[[ 4-3 ]]] 7 out........3-shots.

1-2 6-3 4-4 4-2 3-2 6-5 [[ 6-3 ]] PASS.......7 SHOTS.

2-2 5-3 [[[ 3-1 ]]] PASS......3 SHOTS.

6-4 2-1 2-2 [[[ 6 1 ]]] 4 SHOTS. HAD TO STOP, reached 20 shots for the day.

today i shot 11 field numbers. The shot passed the test today.

comments please . Jaime 1943.

Jamie, are you still field betting these numbers? If so, what is your running total now?