Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum

Hey Bones, think about this strategy for the 16 step loss progression: Instead of following the last outcome and switching every time you lose, try switching every time you lose 2 in a row. The one thing I have found about playing a loss progression Neural strategy is that they do well on choppy tables or in this case where the banker and player don't have a long run for a while. If you have an outcome like this for example:
B P B P B P B P If you had started on the Player and switched each loss, you would have just lost 8 times. If you were betting just one side, you are 4 wins 4 losses. That is great for a loss progression, because your larger bets were wins, smaller bets were losses. So you should be up at this point, not at the risk of ruin because of the choppy table. So if you only switched when a big run happened (two in a row) then in you wouldn't have switched either and again would be winning.

Next example start betting player then these outcomes:
B 1 loss in a row
P
B 1 loss in a row
P
B B (lost two in a row so switch to banker)
B
P 1 loss in a row
B
P 1 loss in a row
B

5 wins and 6 losses if you wait until 2 losses to switch.
If you switched every time the opposite outcome hit, you would have only won 3 bets and lost 8. you would have lost the first 4 bets, than won 3, then lost 4 more.

Make sense?

So far with the 8 in casino charted outcomes that I have the Bones method waiting for 2 losses in a row, has won 7 sessions and had 1 loss.

GREETINGS SNAKEEYES.-IS 2: am. temp.-75

at no time did i tell WOLFBYTE TO GO AND PLAY AGAINST A DEALER in the casino.

I told him, that those black jack MACHINES are beatable.

if my mind is clear on this subject, I told him that i beat those machines at my local casino
and that i use the winings to give as tips to the girls who bring you coffe and sandwitches.

AND I agree with you- if you play this system against a dealer one ON one you will
lose your *ss AND your car AND your house in the long run.

SNAKEEYES, can you test my baccarat system in one of your programs, and tell me if this system is
A winner.

and let me make it clear, just because my baccarat system is a winner on line for me, it doesn't
mean that i'm telling wolfbyte or anybody else to go to a casino and play this system.

my baccarat system is to be played on line first, ON THE PLAY FOR FUN MODE- and if you beat it
on play for fun mode , THEN YOU PLAY IT- FOR REAL ON LINE.

good luck snakeeye at your local casino. JAIME. FROM SUNNY PUERTO RICO. u.s.a.

al_falcons wrote:Hey Bones, think about this strategy for the 16 step loss progression: Instead of following the last outcome and switching every time you lose, try switching every time you lose 2 in a row. The one thing I have found about playing a loss progression Neural strategy is that they do well on choppy tables or in this case where the banker and player don't have a long run for a while. If you have an outcome like this for example:
B P B P B P B P If you had started on the Player and switched each loss, you would have just lost 8 times. If you were betting just one side, you are 4 wins 4 losses. That is great for a loss progression, because your larger bets were wins, smaller bets were losses. So you should be up at this point, not at the risk of ruin because of the choppy table. So if you only switched when a big run happened (two in a row) then in you wouldn't have switched either and again would be winning.
Next example start betting player then these outcomes:
B 1 loss in a row
P
B 1 loss in a row
P
B B (lost two in a row so switch to banker)
B
P 1 loss in a row
B
P 1 loss in a row
B
5 wins and 6 losses if you wait until 2 losses to switch.
If you switched every time the opposite outcome hit, you would have only won 3 bets and lost 8. you would have lost the first 4 bets, than won 3, then lost 4 more.
So far with the 8 in casino charted outcomes that I have the Bones method waiting for 2 losses in a row, has won 7 sessions and had 1 loss.

Alf;
I start out betting Same as last decision but after 5 losing hands, the chop situation, I switch and begin betting opposite last decision and the chop becomes my friend, of course if the shoe turns streaky it will be trouble.

You present another great idea to look at. We shud probably watch both ideas closely and see if one weighs out better after we get some more data.This is good stuff, maybe Jamie and Snakeyes could join our adventure.

Bones

GOOD MORNING BONES.

do you have any programs, to test my system.
and if your answer is yes- can you test my system, and post your results. JAIME.

Jamie
I am testing some betting methods in WinCraps. Works for Baccarat if you put in "rolls" as decisions at 3 for banker and 7 for player. Then the banker bet becomes don't pass and the player bet becomes pass line. Not taking into account the commission on the banker bet either, but you could figure that out at the end of the shoe by how what amount the banker bet won. With this I can't count the cards, because I am really only interested in the Banker and Player outcomes, not the individual cards.

GREETINGS WOLFBYTE.

on dec-13 2012, you said the following.

sure... GREAT!..... POST YOUR BACCARAT SYSTEM!
I will zumma test it and run it throught harraha's rng... on-line tr casino.

TKS............
WOLFBYTE


then on dec 14- 2012 i posted the system to you.
wolfbyte, is been 25 days now- have you zumma tested the sytem.

please post the results --- so heavy and the rest of the members on this board can see the results.

thank you wolfbyte. JAIME FROM S.P.R. u.s.a.

greetings snakeeye.

greetings to all from chilli puerto rico- temp- 80 degrees.

sorry S.E.- thought you had a program on baccarat, so you could test my system.

sorry to say it, but i've never been to new york.

but i was station in south carolina and texas and hawahi [ sorry about the spelling on those states.]
when I was in the army.

I KNOW YOU ARE GOOD AT CRAPS.
but tell me about your BJ play, are you a card counter.

SNAKEEYE, enjoy that indian summer day on friday.- 60 degrees.

tell me are you a member of the POLAR BEAR CLUB?

LISTEN- I wish i was a boy of 18, but i'm a grandfather of 70 YEARS OLD.

good luck this week end. JAIME FROM SUNNY PUERTO RICO. just join the 70's club.

Hey guys,

Newbie here! Baccarat is my game so I'll share this with everyone here.

You can check out below Baccarat forum, it's private and free. This is the best Baccarat strategy out there with flat bet. It's a well known fact that flat bet cannot beat the casino but this prove it wrong. It basic on 4 patterns, there is a lot more to it, see below. If you are numbers guys, don't believe in history and pattern then this is not for you.

To learn the basic method take about 1 months, 3-6 months with a lot of practice (this should not problem for DI players) to truly understand the method to play. Perfecting to take on random game is a life time just like DI. You will able to have small edge over any 50-50 games like Baccarat, Roulette outside bets and Pass Line/Don't Pass Line bets. You can play progressive if you like but you don't need to, flat bet will give you 3-5 units for hard shoes, easy shoes 10 or more units. Yes, you do have losing shoe as well. This is up to you control it. It's teach you to play the whole shoe, you don't have to. As for me, I usually quit when I'm up 5 units at 15-25 hands with short session.

1.bpbpbpbpbpbp (Chop but we call it Road)
2.bbppbbppbbpp (pattern 22222 or call terrible 2)
3.bbpbbpbbpbbp (pattern 212121)
4.bbbbbbbbbbbb (long run)

http://baccaratforum.lefora.com/

I'm forum admin, just introduce yourself and I'll approve you. Hope, it helpful to you as it did to me.

Now, I want to learn how to be good DI. That why I'm here. I need to learn to play more than one casino game to give me more edge. Any suggestions, send them to my way!

Kava

amish dude wrote:Welcome to the Forum Kava. So you want to be a dice influencer ?
I am in my first year of this hobby. in my humble opinion, good start by coming here.
what state are you from so I can give you better direction in your endeavor!
1st buy Heavy's DVD located hereviewtopic.php?f=14&t=393 will lay the ground work IE a good foundation
for starters like I did
2nd take a class heavy is having 3 of them this coming summer viewtopic.php?f=14&t=943 i went to the Tunica seminar last year
and gave me inspiration to continue this as a hobby. I am going to another dice coach this week that Heavy recommended to be come a better tosser of dice and player
Amish dude now has his own following here and in Atlantic City where we hook up with other like minded player once a month

Thank Amish Dude! I just got Heavy's DVD yesterday so I'm going through it as I type. I live Vegas so planning on taking his class in April. Are you talking about Dice Coach in North Las Vegas? I did 3 hrs. one on one with him last Tuesday. If you are in town this weekend taking class with him we can hook up after. Just a thought!

K

I think Amish Dude has a session scheduled with Howard "Rock 'n Roller" this weekend. Howard is located over in Florida and is one of the few, the proud, the folks I don't hesitate to recommend.

Yo AD,
Just curious... WHO'S following you, the CIA, maybe the FBI???

BB

BigBen wrote:Yo AD,
Just curious... WHO'S following you, the CIA, maybe the FBI???
BB

LOL. my Wife mostly but a few guys in Jersey do!

I posted some results from 100 shoes that I tested over on the Dice Institute craps board here:
http://diceinstitute.maxforum.org/2013/ ... e2/#post37

Playing Bac with Bones and one young Oriental woman the other day. Pulled out my secret weapon: Delaware George. That's right, the quarter trick: Heads play Banker, Delaware play Player. Seven correct calls in a row. Eight out of nine. Bones went against the George several times. You know this charting thing said....Too bad, so sad. After the last of the nine tosses, a win, I colored up and gave the quarter to a very perplexed young woman.

I sure wish Delaware George had been present with me last night!

Look in your pocket change, there is more than one!!

I went back to that table after lunch and the same lady and dealer were still at the table. There came a time when the Lady didn't know what she wanted to bet and the dealer said "Hey, use the Quarter" She reached in her shirt pocket , dug the lucky quarter out and flipped it. She bet accordingly and ..............

LOL

That's right..... she lost.

You retired the quarter just in time, lol.

Just me saying
Bones

Attention Baccarat Enthusiasts

Anybody interested in coming to the 10 th annual Bacc Fest in downtown Biloxi the first week in October Please let me know.

Ok, so it's only the First Bacc Fest but you should come if you can make it.

Might take our winnings to the Craps Pit

Bones