My casino has a new sign on its tables.

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My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by Tricky » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:18 am

The local CET casino has recently posted a sign on all the craps tables. I can't remember the exact words (if you are not betting we will ask you to step back) I witnessed the boxman tell guys who were waiting throw the dice and did not bet on anyone else to step back and give up his spot. This is only happened when the table was packed.

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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by freak » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:27 am

If you think about it it makes sense. We usually bet a $1 fire bet on every shooter or possibly $4 on the hard ways if they start showing just to be sure we can be in the game and hold our spot. Never got any heat from the box but we do sometimes get heat from players looking for a spot at the table. And one time we won $250 on a 5 point fire. ;)
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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by heavy » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:53 am

I agree. Toss out a $6 Don't Pass. Get a point established. If it looks like a hand is going to develop then place the six and eight for $6 each - SIA's old "one hit - can't miss" strategy. Put it on auto-pilot until it's your turn.
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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by pappyvanwinkle » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:21 pm

Just a FYI, some casino's won't take the firebet without at least you making a minimal line bet
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Post by POPdevil » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:32 pm

I will put $5 on the passline and use the 5 count to determine if I'm going to put odds or play some place bets. Never had the dealers complain about this. I have seen cherokee get so busy that it was 3 deep waiting to get to the table and the dealers didn't say a thing as long as you had some money on the table.

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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by amish dude » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:53 pm

pappyvanwinkle wrote:Just a FYI, some casino's won't take the firebet without at least you making a minimal line bet
Pappy is right All Total rewards casino that I toss at require A pas line bet period
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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by Knick111 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:33 pm

GREETINGS PAPPY.

Can you tell us, what is the % win on EVERY 100 firebet bets.

I'm asking because depending on the % WE CAN come up with a system to bet the firebet bet.

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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by wild child » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:43 pm

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Been to a few casinos with that policy ...related to a rail bird or two stealing a player's chip
and/or "street hustling "chips from active players...could be something related....W C

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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by CrimsonTide » Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:04 am

WildChild is right. If you take up valuable space at the table and are not going to play then you just might be a rail-thief. We have seen a few. Also the groups of three and four who hover around the corners with $10 worth of chips in their handsAll are trouble and prbably just waiting to stick out a hand in the middle of the throw. I say ALL BE GONE who do not play-for real! Take the lessons and watching and drunk escapades to the lounge- or slot machines - or better to the kiddie games!!

If the casino requires a legitimate bet to be on the rail- I say "about time!!!" CrimsonTide

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Post by vegasfan2010 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:55 am

I use white chips at each end of my stack. They are bookends to my chips on the rail.

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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by Bones » Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:42 pm

amish dude wrote:
pappyvanwinkle wrote:Just a FYI, some casino's won't take the firebet without at least you making a minimal line bet
Pappy is right All Total rewards casino that I toss at require A pas line bet period
The Grand in Biloxi does not require any table action to place a fire bet. The Hardrock doesn't require any action to place the all tall small wager. Wonder who decides that crap
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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by wudged » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:20 pm

I was told that this rule is put into effect because of fleas who bet one dollar on the firebet and nothing else hoping for a big pay day, while tying up valuable table space that would otherwise have somebody making many more bets.

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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by Inspector » Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:11 pm

Casino Rama in Ontario also does not require a bet to place a firebet, nor does it require a PL on the prior shooter to be eligible to shoot.... just action... So I have taken to making the FB to be eligible to shoot.

on a different note I thought I would try some Blackjack today only to be told they don't sell or give away the basic strategy cards anymore... haven't for years I was told... so when I sat down and came across a hand I didn't know I asked the dealer. He told me he was not allowed to tell me what I was supposed to do. he told me I could call for a supervisor though.

Who makes up these rules?

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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by Knick111 » Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:18 pm

Hi inpector,

You said- so when I sat down and came across a hand I didn't know, I asked the dealer for help.

Can you tell us what the hand was?

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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by Inspector » Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:49 pm

Sure the hand was an 11 vs a dealer 10 showing.

I have not played BJ in many years and was hoping to get a basic strategy card from the gift shop.
Had I known I was going to play instead of it being spur of the moment I would have printed out a basic strategy from wizard of odds.

For me the surprise was not that they didn't sell the cards anymore but instead was that the dealer either didn't know basic strategy to instruct me on it or was not allowed, as he stated, to give me instruction.

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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by KnowNothing » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:33 pm

Heavy wrote:I agree. Toss out a $6 Don't Pass. Get a point established. If it looks like a hand is going to develop then place the six and eight for $6 each - SIA's old "one hit - can't miss" strategy. Put it on auto-pilot until it's your turn.
I ran this on almost every randie in A/C. Ran $12 DC, $2 change on outside numbers. Paid the dealers $1 on every hit. They loved us! Was a major factor in coming out well this last trip. One dealer mocked me... "what? you afraid of being arrested for gambling?". He soon shut up. Was very tempted to raise the amount to $30.

Side-note, I ran the strategy on myself also; 2-3 numbers. Found it helped me not to focus on the real bets I had working.

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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by nitrxjunky » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:08 am

pappyvanwinkle wrote:Just a FYI, some casino's won't take the firebet without at least you making a minimal line bet
Thats why I like to do the ol' don't pass/place the point game. This way I get a chance of a free fire bet.

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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by Smokespray » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:18 am

KnowNothing wrote:
I ran this on almost every randie in A/C. Ran $12 DC, $2 change on outside numbers. Paid the dealers $1 on every hit. They loved us! Was a major factor in coming out well this last trip. One dealer mocked me... "what? you afraid of being arrested for gambling?". He soon shut up. Was very tempted to raise the amount to $30.

Side-note, I ran the strategy on myself also; 2-3 numbers. Found it helped me not to focus on the real bets I had working.

KN
KN;
Could you elaborate a little? You lost me on the $2 change part....
Maybe a little dense this AM....
SS

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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by heavy » Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:30 am

Whew. Revival of an old thread - and a good question. KN - a little help with the math - maybe a step by step description of the play?
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Re: My casino has a new sign on its tables.

Post by luxlogs » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:33 pm

Smokespray wrote:
KnowNothing wrote:
I ran this on almost every randie in A/C. Ran $12 DC, $2 change on outside numbers. Paid the dealers $1 on every hit. They loved us! Was a major factor in coming out well this last trip. One dealer mocked me... "what? you afraid of being arrested for gambling?". He soon shut up. Was very tempted to raise the amount to $30.

Side-note, I ran the strategy on myself also; 2-3 numbers. Found it helped me not to focus on the real bets I had working.

KN
KN;
Could you elaborate a little? You lost me on the $2 change part....
Maybe a little dense this AM....
SS
Your not alone SS the $2 change part thru me as well.

Heavy, real nice site you host here, learned a lot in the past few weeks.

Thank You

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