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Which side are you on here?

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:07 pm
by AtGame7
If your strategy was to play nothing but a $15 line bet and parlay every $15 win one time would you prefer the Pass or Don't Pass and why?

Re: Which side are you on here?

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:13 pm
by Dave73
Assuming Im not shooting, Id look at the table. Lots of money out with crazy prop bets, then Id be on the PL. Grumpy people with an empty table, DP

Re: Which side are you on here?

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:39 pm
by heavy
Without going into crazy math - I think the real advantage you'd have in doing this would be based on the fact that you're much more likely to get two consecutive come out naturals on the right side (six ways to make the seven plus two ways to make the eleven) than you do to make come out naturals on the Don'ts (two ways to roll the ace deuce and two ways to win on aces). One the point is established - over the long run the right side is going to lose roughly two times out of three as opposed to the Don'ts winning two out of three. Now, if you take out the parlay angle and just go with the straight $15 Pass or DP - I'd be on the Don'ts.

Re: Which side are you on here?

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:59 am
by SHOOTITALL
I'll bet you can't do this, either way, over thirty minutes without losing your mind.

Re: Which side are you on here?

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:07 am
by Dylanfreake
Shootitall, I bet I could do it.

I have studied tosses from live play and tosses from my practice , DI`ing and just random tossing and the result------any thing can and will happen on a craps table.

Some sessions there will be all kinds of naturals tossed so that you should parlay from the Rightside .Then there will be seven out after seven out and on longer tosses , no one making a pass, so the Darkside would be profitable.

I was never good at transitioning from one side to the other , like Heavy, Golfer, Lou and others, so I thought I needed to choose one side or the other and stick with it so that I would never be second-guessing myself and the way I play. I chose the Darkside.

The Rightside parlay is good also.

On choosing between the Darkside and the Rightside , I think it is six of one and half-a-dozen of the other.

However, after saying that it does bring to mind an old 2005 Strategy that I used called "Cowtippin`/Deertippin`".

I actually used that during a few sessions Golfer and I played at the old Sheraton , the Horseshoe and Gold Strike in Tunica.

The strategy goes like this ----From the DP, I would Parlay any win . Also from the DP, I would double any loss.
Example : Make a $5 DP
On a win , "Cowtip" it (Parlay)

Make a $5 DP
On a loss , "Deertip" it, go up to a $10 DP

Winning on a "Cowtipper" you are three units ahead.
Winning on a "Deertipper", you are one unit ahead.

There`s always a bad side, too.

Losing on a "Cowtipper", you are one unit behind.
Losing on a "Deertipper", you are three units behind

When I used the above , my bankroll was not all that large -probably between $1500 and $2000 . So I just played the table minimum (usually $5) and avoided $10 tables.