Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum

First I want to thank Heavy for pointing out to use google as a search
engine to find this stuff. Seems you can search for any silverthorn
system and just get a PDF of the system free that he is
selling for maybe $100. It's kind of amazing.

I can't upload the PDF here cause it's too big for this room, but if you
search in google for the subject "Silverthorn quick strike craps" you will
get it.

Having said that I have looked it over an his claim to basically only losing
1 out of 43 sessions. It looks interesting, and as I am considering trying
to run some results through it, I'd like to hear any feedback anyone might
have. I like the method and the premise. Mid range. Small bank. Etc.

Thanks

Mogul

Please do NOT upload any copyrighted material to the site. If anyone else wants to go on a similar quest - have fun. Be warned, though, that some of those sites that offer "free" downloads of this sort of material contain viruses and browser hijackers. You won't be happy if you pick up either.

Well thanks again, I guess.

I post a thank you to the group moderator for help and direction to information that
I am looking at and get yelled at TWICE.

Point taken about the copyright.

I would venture to guess that snakeyes didn't bother to look at or consider looking
at the content of what I pointed to. IF you have that bad of a defeatist attitude about
any gambling ideas then why come here?

On another hand, if I have paid money for it, would that have "given me what I paid
for" and made it worth looking at?

Nice friendly place you've got here.

As I think about it though, you must get a lot of enjoyment out of losing money,
KNOWING that you are going to give it to the casino.

Remember.


" Shithead - always remember this - You GET what you PAY for " !

Happy losing. I hope you REALLY lose a lot so you will buy more fun.
And I wish you all the best!!!!!!!!!!

Mr. Mogul,

This Silverthorne guy has been churning out "super winning systems" for years" for the gullible gambler.

Guess what? The casinos still run craps games. If his systems were winners everyone would have embraced them and the casinos would have thrown out the tables years ago.

The only winner for these sytems are the Silverthorn principals.

By the way....welcome to the board. Read a little here and you might just learn something about the game....for free.

Mogul i used to be a super system guy. I know you love munching and crunching numbers. I still like looking at how other people bet. Truth is if you play a up as you lose system you get in hot water real quick.

Lets take silvers greatess system the nueral system he clamed you stay on the first level a large amount of time thats false you will be at the end of the secound level of that system most of the time. I use to run systems playing live hands all the time.
Once you hit the third level sweat will start dripping from youre balls at the table you will start freaking out and abandon said system.Human beings are not set up to take punishment the fight or flight response take over even for gamblers.

One guy whos no longer with us capped the start of the program some how making it better any who you will lose using the nureal system or any fibo for that matter. Like a guy over at another board thought he found gold with a dp and 2 dc bets took me about 30 mins to crash that system.
systems only work for a short while and only when the table is going that way.
Munch and crunch away but end results will always be the same.Now if you really want to jump into new territory try out differetal betting thats a mucnh and crunch dream. im headed into the snow have fun guys.

Okay, couple of things I should mention here regarding forum decorum and things I've seen on other boards of late. First off - let me mention that copyright thing again. The reason I continually tell folks not to post copyright material here is because when the owner of that material decides to sic his lawyers on someone - it's not going to be you. It's me, the forum owner, they'll come after. I just don't need that headache.

Next up, let's talk a bit about trolls. A troll is a person who likes to keep things stirred up on forums and blots by starting arguments and provoking emotional responses from others by posting inflammatory or provocative comments. They're not interested in furthering intelligent discourse. They just want to piss someone off. One such troll is currently poking $nakeeye$ and a couple of other posters with a stick over on crapsforum.com. I elected to bow out of that conversation, but others have certainly risen to take the bait. There is nothing to be gained by such conversations, unless developing a case of high blood pressure is on your "to do" list. Realize that the troll has no interest in furthering conversation. He just wants to keep things stirred up.

On this forum I have a loosely enforced "code of conduct" defined in the terms of service of the forum. We're talking about the basic kindergarten rules. Be nice. Don't hit. Pick up your toys. Let's stick to our guns on that. Don't engage in troll-like activity here on the forum. I encourage spirited discourse. I discourage arguing for the sake of arguing, or personal attacks on any forum member.

Thanks.

HA ha loser

Hey Mogul I just wanted to thank you for the heads up on this system... although I'm NOT a big fan of Silverthorne and his systems, I did track this one down and have been intrigued by it....

I'm just wondering if you have played it yet live in a casino or are you testing it? I have been testing it with my numbers and so far have won 8 straight games... Now I KNOW that is not scientific or a big enough mathematically/statistically sample to prove anything, but I do like how it plays....

Anyway thanks again!!

Hi mogul397, don't feel so bad about what people are saying here, take it with a grain of salt. I love to test out the systems too and have found that they all will work for a period of time, then you will bust out. You can use them, but you have to limit your wins and losses per session very closely to make a profit. A good rule of thumb for any betting strategy for any game, is don't pay for it. There is enough free information around and like someone else said the only person really making money from the systems is the guy selling them...

Good luck to you and look around for some posts about the Neural systems, they are very similar to Silverthorn's system. I have use them before and like I said they work, but you run the risk of total bust out and need a proper bankroll to handle those bust outs.

Heavy might beat me up for this but a former board member was a real fan of Silverthorn and made a ton of post concerning it. If Heavy wants to inform you, his choice and there is a very good reason why I will not post who it was although some of the older members know. But, of course, Heavy has a fine search engine.

SIA is referring to our old pal WWWWW, who also went by Wolfbyte and a few other handles through the years. Noodle through the betting strategies sub-board and you'll surely come across some of his "Neural plus Three Capping" posts - and a lot more.