Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum

Hello,

So my first post and i appreciate the feedback I'm sure I will get. I have become a backline player using several different styles of play depending on my mood and what the table seems to be doing sticking mainly to making my first bet through the DC. I do usually believe in one loss per shooter which keeps me from losing it all on one shooter. I've been playing for several years.

Here is my question, many times I am the only player at a table, Southern Indiana Casinos, which gives me the option of not playing, if you believe a backline player should not shoot, or being the shooter, believing the dice do not know the difference. I have tried straight up DP and changing the dice if I throw a natural. I have tried pass/dont pass and then laying odds on the don't pass until the DC travels, usually this leads to a 12 or an immediate repeater of the point. I have tried a DP if it loses I go to pass don't pass same dice no lay.

The last time I was by myself, I was playing the don't Pass with two DC's stop on a loss, first point hit the point, changed dice, second point hit the point, changed dice, third point hit the point, you can see where this is going. eight passes later i finally through in the towel and left the table. I'm just not one to switch back and forth as that seems to be when I really take a beating. I was of the mind set that by changing the dice it was the same as going to a new shooter.

I appreciate any thoughts on what others when you are the only one at the table intent on playing the backline.

Nubs,
Play both ways, establish a don't, then bet the numbers; or place the 6 & 8, and do a DC with odds be happy with a small grind till the table fills. If you must shoot try a pass/don't pass - then let the point dictate where you place or lay odds. Changing dice doesn't help, changing your shirt doesn't help either. Or learn to set and capitalize on an empty table.

D.N8r

Or stop changing the dice. Not that it matters. But the dice didn't beat you. This is the old "zigged when you should have zagged" problem, and we've all dealt with it. I agree with DarthNater. Play a $20 DP with $18 each on the six and eight. One hit on the six or eight will pay you $21 and guarantee you a $1 profit for the hand. Regress to $12 each if you want to then to guarantee a $13 profit. Then just throw the dice and collect on sixes and eights until the ugly number comes home.

I agree with Darth. Many moons ago I was playing alone one morning in a NA casino. I'd make a don't pass bet, place the six and eight and then make a DC bet. About the 3rd time the DC went to a six or eight and I collected my payout and moved the place bet to odds the Native American pit critter said "oh my god, we're paying him to take odds"

Mssthis1,
That's a beautiful thing

TheNubs:

I might suggest, if you are the only one shooting, to play the BigRed or LittleYellow. To do this, first you establish your SRR after lets say, 30 rolls and count your 7's; you will have a loose idea of your 7's to rolls average. Then try to throw really bad, hit the mirror, hit the Banker Box chip stack, and see if that brings up you 7's to rolls average. Since you are the only one on the table, you can make just the table minimum Pass line bet for 30 or 40 rolls til you get a good feeling of just trying to make 7's.

Now the fun part begins: once you get a rough idea of your SRR, start counting your rolls. When you get to 1/2 of your SRR, make a LittleYellow bet (7's Hop bet which pays 5 to 1 instead of the BigRed which only pays 4 to 1). Keep throwing the worst you can the entire time your are the only one at the table. The LittleYellow is 3 bets in one, so the bet needs to be in 3's; ie, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21, 24, 30, 39. As you can see from this list of these bets, you will have 11 chances in your future rolls to make some serious cash. I usually start at $9, which pays $39 i think; you could make the $9 bet 4 times in a row and still be winning; but after 3 bets on the LittleYellow, you will be up $12.

If you are having really bad luck (rolling like a pro), keep moving up your bets on LittleYellow $3 at a time or using the bets list above. If you roll 20 times in a row without hitting a 7, you are not a "Don't Shooter". In this example; when it got to the $39 bet and the 15th roll, it was up $9. Once you get familiar winning on the 7, you can tailor your betting plan; ie, doubling your LittleYellow bet each time instead of walking it up $3 at a time.

One time in Canada, I was having a really bad day; Point 7, about 3 times in a row. I was just guessing, but I think my 7 to rolls ratio for that day was 3 to 1; ouch. I was about to leave the table when a new idea struck me: BigRed. It pays 4 to 1, but that is better than pouring $70 out every hand I have. I started counting my rolls; 1, 2, 3. $25 on BigRed, HIT. $100 win. 1, 2 , 3; $25 and missed. $50 bet, missed. $100 on BigRed, HIT. $400 win minus the $75 previous bets, net win $425.

Once I was back up to my Buy-in money, I just bet the minimum PassLine bet while I trained to get my throw working again. Even though I was the only one at the table all this time, I really didn't want to win hitting the 7; I needed to win throwing Box numbers. Keep working on improving your shooting skills will get you more wins in the long run. You think Tiger Woods just walked onto a Golf Course one day and won? NO, he trained everyday, even if he didn't get paid to train. He loved his sport.

Hope that helps.

Doc

I can remember $5Bill rolling 30 numbers from the Don't.