Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum

Ok guys A lot of you guys play the all tall and small I do to we get really excited over a 34 to one pay off. What does this look like at the table or how about when somebody has a one dollar hardway and goes same bet You guys need to type into( you tube) blazing saddles kc to see my reaction the guy on the horse gets it right people are dancing around like gobbers.
ok now heres another question how many times at a warm not hot table do you see a 4 and 3 roll????? how about a 10 and 11 ???quite often .
How many times at a hot table do you sit there watching your 6&8 only hit twice while outside numbers tear it up Ive lost count at this time.
So what to do we all know at a crapless table vig is up front so we need to bet to pay for it also.Ive watched a lot of crapless way too much.
Scout wanted to see this if I had played this tonight I would have cleaned house for a low roll like myself but I stuck to the old six and 8 and got a six and 8 reward.Ok heres the plan simple effective your ahead after the second hit and cant losss.

35 dollar 4 and ten yes im aware the vig is up front.This is the most to loss in this system
the 4 rolls or 10 does not matter pull down the opposite number lets say the four hit pull down the 10'
Now move it to the 3 its a buy paid for by the hit on the 4. If a loss occurs here your down 36 bucks big deal.
Ok heres the fun part your 100 dollar buy pays 300 rack 85 and move to the two for 315 your 36 dollar bet is getting action now hows the heart doing are you danceing if the two hits like you do when youve got a two one two on the all tall and small heh heh.
Ok the two hits you say down on my two you rack 2100.
Now this is the most cost efficent way to play you could have left the ten up and tried a dueal progression but to me 2100 is enough. Ive wacthed alot of crapless alot it often happens that a 4 and 3 hit in squence or a 10 and 11 hit yes it not all that common for a 2 or 12 but youve made money after the 4 and 3 your in profit baby with a shot at the big time.or 10 and 11 .
Low roller versen coming up.

This is as low as I can go sorry fig and all lets go 25 four and ten .When one hits lets say its the ten this time drop the four and move the ten over to the 11 and go 70 buck ok it hits . Rack 30 and buy the 12 for 250 your up a little at this point.Ok if it hits your up 1750. Not bad.
Ok after you get your number established on either the 3 or 11 and it hits your paid for nothing to stop you from betting the way you want if you like 22 inside or 66 inside or come betting or any other way maybe your a 6&8 guy hey I know about that go ahead its a warm to hot table swim around.
Now with out saying don't play this unless you see 4 and tens hitting or on a stone cold table TIMING IS EVERYTHING .As for what sets to use you people have played long enough to know what sets kick off 4&10s and which ones toss 3 and 11s.
As for me a v3 set is great for a quarter picth 4 or ten and great for a double picth 3 or 11 or bdoa.The two or 12 is all on you. Ive put a lot of thought into this I wanted something that if it hit would send you home off the table. If you want leave after a 2100 win or 1750 I cant do any thing for you.

I just came up with this figuring out all the vig and math . How much would send 90 percent of the players home happy. It would have worked yesterday at the casino the third shooter had a monster hand .I was low rolling so I played my 6&8 hardway deal .The thing I don't like about it is its a lot of money for a pso but the risk to reward poteinal is good.
For guys who buy in for 1500 it should be doable.It might be awhile before I hit the casino again probably in march I don't know if I can wait that long but wife says we better. Laws are coming in april which affect my work Ill probably drop 15000 off my yearly salary got to love the government.
I'm working on a lower progression for lower rollers.Ill try to figure a way to pop 600 or maybe 1000 ill think about it tonight.

I like it.

Ok a day of testing dice results came up with some surprising results. That's a story for another thread . Ok pounding my head for quite some time today to come up with a way to low roll for a chance at send me home money.Rember this is warm table hot table stuff here Chop or cold will roast the goose.Also being a low roller means lower return but you knew that so here we go.
Ok 12 dollar 6&8 yes I figure you have a much higher chance fueling your bets with this to start but if you decide 5&9 will replace just which ever you prefer or table charting.
Ok lets say the 6 hits pays 14 drop 2 and place the 3 for 16 ( you are at 26 at risk this is as big as it gets) .
ok were wanting one more hit on the 6 or 8 does not matter lets say the 8 hits take the pay off and the orginal wager and buy the 3 for 40 ,Bring down the 6 and rack it.(You are at 12 dollar place and 2 dollar added that's what this bet is costing you now)
So we have a buy the 3 for 40 next hit press to 150.Vig is paid for out of the hit 8 dollar vig and you get 2 dollars off the 12 dollar place bet cost to you is 10 dollar if you lose right now pay off plus wager equeals 600.
So at that point all it took was two hits on either 6 or 8 we place the side that hit first if the 8 hit first we place the 11 which ever side hits that's the direction were going.No matter even if the other side hits next. Then we simply press the 11 on the first hit and pray for a second hit.
Ok what if the 3 or 11 hits at the 16 dollar level well that simple parlay it making it a buy bet and pull down the 6and 8. No you want win big but you will have fuel for the next shooter make it a 50 dollar buy pays 150 plus wager equals 200 minus 2 dollars. Not enough to send you home but better then a punch in the nuts.

Hi Operator.
Good topic and interesting thoughts. Keep us updated . Thx



All the best,
Tgold

ok snow snow and more snow cant go in any direction to get out of it . work is crazy hoping to get a few days off next month so I can hit the casino.If you like above system I'm working on some thing better. ordered new dice today then back off to work.With said above system you need things to line up in sequence new system does not matter can be played on any table will get back in touch once I get back in the game.