Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum

Yeah, it's another of those "what would you do?" questions. Let's assume you have a $500 bankroll to play with and a $300 loss limit. You need an extra hundred bucks for something important to you - perhaps a nice gift for your significant other or to cover the cost of a massage down at the Happy Golden Dragon Good Luck Rub and Tug. What's your play? Pass line - Don't pass - Take a shot at the props? What's your quickest, sure-fire way to win a Benjamin?

10$ dp, 15$ odds, lay 15$ 5&9, set for seven.
40$+ every two rolls when succesful.
Some casino won’t lay under 30$ tho.

Ok..you win 98 bucks. $200 no ten two rolls after a ten is rolled around the 15th roll if those two rolls are horns.

sorry..$96 bucks.

Ahigh's 280 play on myself or a known DI.

It was new to me recently but essentially all numbers covered to win 50 per hit. Two hits and down and off for a happy finish, or alternatively a DIY job if it goes tits up .

Either way you know your fate very quickly.

If I am shooting, $100 PL bet. Or, $25 PL bet with $75 odds.

I would rather go 5$ pass, 6&8 90$ Each one hit and down everything.

I saw kids do that one day. They were dumb and looking for a second & third hit... but if they did one hit & down they woulda won 1k in a few mins. They just didn’t realise the potential from greed.

If I have the Dice, $100 Don't Pass using my 2 dice sets. One for the come-out and the other to seven-out.

$5Bill

London Shooter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:09 pm Ahigh's 280 play on myself or a known DI.

It was new to me recently but essentially all numbers covered to win 50 per hit. Two hits and down and off for a happy finish, or alternatively a DIY job if it goes tits up .

Either way you know your fate very quickly.

I like that one too. I've been playing 2 hit's regress/press for several months now. The majority of the time 2 hits and down on everything but the mandatory pass line bet is stronger. You typically need at least one hand of 20+ or a string of repeaters that isn't the point during the session otherwise.

How does that play work out to $280? 4/10 @ $25 each ($26 really to buy them). 5/9 for $35 each and 6/8 for $42 each. Comes out to $206.

So far nobody has taken sixteen shots at a $6 high-low.

22Insider,

Sounds like what you are describing is Mad Professor's 204 bet.

As an aside, does anyone still have any contact with MP?

Noah

$4 ACE-DEUCE
$35 4
$45 5
$54 6
$54 8
$45 9
$35 10
$4 YO
$2 MIDNIGHT

2 + 4 + 35 + 45 + 54 + 54 + 45 + 35 + 4 + 2 = 280

It's detailed in comparative strategy analysis thread which H bumped recently.

Good discussion of AH280 v MP204 v Buy 4 & 10

Ace High concluded SRR to breakeven on his 280 was 6.257 which was same figure as MP204, but he reckoned 280 out performed 204 for a DI with good SRR, though comparison was not apples to apples given different betting amounts and regressions/Presses

What was also interesting was that house edge per roll of 280 was just under 1% even with "bad" bets in the mix.

Whole thread is a good read if you like that kind of thing. I'll bump it again for ease of finding

London Shooter wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:23 pm $4 ACE-DEUCE
$35 4
$45 5
$54 6
$54 8
$45 9
$35 10
$4 YO
$2 MIDNIGHT

2 + 4 + 35 + 45 + 54 + 54 + 45 + 35 + 4 + 2 = 280

It's detailed in comparative strategy analysis thread which H bumped recently.

Good discussion of AH280 v MP204 v Buy 4 & 10

2$ aces, 4$ace-duce, 4$yo, 2$ twelve...you just got the dealers mixed up big time.
5$ Horn high ace-duce&5$horn high yo. Same payout and 10 times less mixup/time

heavy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:51 pm So far nobody has taken sixteen shots at a $6 high-low.

For some odd reason that one only seems to work for me when I'm not betting it. lol.

since I haven't played the hi/lo bet for about twenty years..doesn't a $6 hi/lo pay $90? It's a split giving you $15 for $6. Or have I got this completely wrong. At roll 16 you've put out $96..not even even. How about using a fib progression starting with $2 hi/lo after seeing a horn appear. Roll 30 gets some big bucks!

Your are correct - pays $90. Personally, I think I'm back betting $90 each on the six and eight. One hit and run.

I did a $51 No 10 today. It went two rolls and out. I collected my $25 profit and went and got my free lunch. That works for me.

$5Bill

I like both the $90 6 & 8 and the $100 don't come plays to make $100. But with the stated $300 loss limit the 6/8 play only gives you one shot whereas the don't come play gives you possibly three shots at winning $100 (loose first, win second and win third - $100 up and gone).