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My Darkside Strategy for the past few weeks

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 11:19 am
by koreancowboy
Hi all, it's been awhile since I've been on here...been busy with life and playing craps on a regular basis.

I go to the casino about twice a month because it’s in another state (ilani Casino in Ridgefield, WA...I live in Portland). As always, I’m fine tuning my strategy so that I can get consistent results.

Here it is:

Don’t Pass for one unit, only backed with odds (usually $18) if the point is 4 or 10. I do this because of the general play at ilani ranges from choppy to shooters that will seven out quickly.

If the shooter hits a 7 before establishing the point, I’ll double up and cover that with X number of dollars on Any Seven. I go with Any Seven because that's the only option available on the table.

Example: if I’m betting $10, then I’ll cover that bet with $3 on Any Seven. Whatever I’m betting, I try to make sure that I have at least the same amount or more on Any Seven.

Generally speaking, if the shooter has thrown one seven before establishing the point, then there’s a good chance that they’ll throw another seven.

If the point is 4,6,8, or 10, I’ll “cover” it with X Number of dollars on the Hardways (same principle applies as with the Any Seven).

Sometimes I’ll play the 6 and 8 for one unit...also the other numbers depending on how the shooter is rolling. If I have one unit on the 5,6, and 8, then sometimes I’ll cover that with one unit on the Field. That way, I’m making something no matter what the shooter throws.

If I’m shooting...Don’t Pass for three units backed with $18 odds. If I hit the point before the seven, I’ll keep doubling up until I hit the seven (I’m a dice setter and always throw the same way).

The whole point of this is to minimise the amount that I could potentially lose. Unlike most people I play with on a given night, I’m not chasing big wins, just small ones that really add up over time.

Note that this strategy is more of a guideline than a hard and fast set of rules. I pay attention to how the table is trending and adjust accordingly.

I’ll usually stop playing after a really hot shooter (which I would qualify as someone that has hit more than five points) sevens out.



Feel free to critique/add advice/ask questions!

Re: My Darkside Strategy for the past few weeks

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:36 pm
by London Shooter
KC, if you've read any of my comments on this type of don't side play you'll know whats coming :)

Any 7 and hardways to hedge your don'ts - how scared are you exactly about your exposure on the come out and on losing a DP once the point is established?

In trying to "minismise the amount I could be potentially lose" you are starting with one of the best bets on the table and then adding in some of the worst to the mix. If your don't play with odds remains naked you are going to fare much better over time. Bigger ups and downs, but you'll lose much less overall.

Re: My Darkside Strategy for the past few weeks

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 2:15 pm
by heavy
Ditto. What he said.

Re: My Darkside Strategy for the past few weeks

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 8:08 pm
by SHOOTITALL
LS/Heavy: Unfortunately, I agree with K. I do not believe it is so much about the money as a comfort level. Yea, It's a loser but it's his loser to be comfortable doing that. Each of us have inherent bad bets we are comfortable with. If that particular bet lowers the stress level, it is well worth it to him. There is no doubt in my mind he is aware of this and has tried playing without this bet and that did not work for him.
Hopefully, from this we will not put everyone's bad bet under the microscope.

Re: My Darkside Strategy for the past few weeks

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 4:44 pm
by koreancowboy
SHOOTITALL wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 8:08 pm LS/Heavy: Unfortunately, I agree with K. I do not believe it is so much about the money as a comfort level. Yea, It's a loser but it's his loser to be comfortable doing that. Each of us have inherent bad bets we are comfortable with. If that particular bet lowers the stress level, it is well worth it to him. There is no doubt in my mind he is aware of this and has tried playing without this bet and that did not work for him.
Hopefully, from this we will not put everyone's bad bet under the microscope.
Yeah, it's all contingent on my comfort level. Unlike Blackjack, I tend to still play pretty tight overall, so this is something that I'm comfortable with.

I will say also that this is based on where I play...if this was Snoqualmie, it wouldn't work as well IMO. There are a lot more DI shooters up there than there are at ilani.

Re: My Darkside Strategy for the past few weeks

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 4:45 pm
by Golfer
I liked his bet on the Red !! :D

Re: My Darkside Strategy for the past few weeks

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 5:55 am
by heavy
The ONLY big red you'll ser mr bet has a horn but attached.