Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum

Hi everyone. Is there anyone who could explain to me the probability of when betting straight up on 3 numbers at the same time in European roulette of winning 53 times out of 428 spins.

Yeah. The Wizard of Odd might be willing to answer it if you posted it on his website. I could eventually sort it out, but it would require me dragging down my college text book on calculating odds on various bets and doing more math than my 74 year old brain can endure these days. When I tried to run it on my .99 cent pocket calculator I can tell you the answer was ERR.

Yeah I couldn’t a find probability calculator online to figure it out. I used a percentage calculator to figure out that the the expected wins is about 34 since I have an 8.1% chance of winning on each spin. I’ve won 70 times my initial buy in playing a certain way and I’m just wondering how legit it is. However sample size is most likely to small to know for sure.

Nicky Lightning wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:45 am

Hi everyone. Is there anyone who could explain to me the probability of when betting straight up on 3 numbers at the same time in European roulette of winning 53 times out of 428 spins.

It is rare to find a casino offering the Single ZERO Roulette Wheel in the U S A.

The American Roulette Wheel appears to RULE casinos sea to shinning sea.

My experience is to check the TOTE BOARD
When it indicates that the two most frequent numbers are
in the same verticle column... AND of THE SAME COLOR...
.....My wager is to bet THAT Columns( 1 or 2 or 3 )
AND
THE SPECIFIC COLOR RED or BLACK

You may prefer to "PAPER TRADE (wager) "
the concept
prior to PLACING AT Risk of LOSS YOUR $ usd TREASURE

just me saying
w c

I’m playing online. They offer live dealer Single zero roulette where I live.

Nicky Lightning wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:15 pm

I’m playing online. They offer live dealer Single zero roulette where I live.

N L

I had not considered the online possibility.

Have you considered slicing the Single Zero Wheel into smaller slices?

Like a pizza pie...

For starters try four slices......
The ZERO allows one slice larger than the other three.

Any "CLUSTERING of numbers" or non-clustering would show.

Keeping a running score may direct your wager(s) in real-time.

Just me saying
w c

It's kind of funny. If you cruise on one of Royal Caribbean's Oasis Class Ships they have two roulette games. On the non-smoking side of the casino they have a single zero wheel. On the smoking side they have a double zero wheel. If both games are open - the double zero game will be packed and the single zero game will have one to three players almost every time. It's weird. I remember hearing a player walk up to the dealer at the double zero game and ask if it was a triple zero game. The dealer said no, it was not. The player refused to play, saying she only played triple zero games. What a dumbass.

heavy wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:15 pm

It's kind of funny. If you cruise on one of Royal Caribbean's Oasis Class Ships they have two roulette games. On the non-smoking side of the casino they have a single zero wheel. On the smoking side they have a double zero wheel. If both games are open - the double zero game will be packed and the single zero game will have one to three players almost every time. It's weird. I remember hearing a player walk up to the dealer at the double-zero game and ask if it was a triple-zero game. The dealer said no, it was not. The player refused to play, saying she only played triple zero games. What a dumbass.

The triple ZERO Roulette Wheel (also known as SANS ROULETTE WHEEL )
is allegedly available in Select Gambling Emporioums
frequented by SPECIAL PERSONAS

Would we call a
NO ZERO ROULETTE WHEEL

THE ZERO ZERO WHEEL

Played quite a few more spins over the last few days. Haven’t tallied up the wins and losses yet. So far I’ve taken a $100 buy in and built it up to $16000. It’s unbelievable that I did it only flat betting three numbers and not betting more than 3% of the money I won.

Nicky Lightning
Check your Private Messages top of the first page

w c

Nicky Lightning wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:09 am

Played quite a few more spins over the last few days. Haven’t tallied up the wins and losses yet. So far I’ve taken a $100 buy-in and built it up to $16000. It’s unbelievable that I did it only flat betting three numbers and not betting more than 3% of the money I won.

Recently, an acquaintance mentioned that
there is an online casino
offering

NO ZERO (as in nada => NO ZERO ) Roulette...just 36 numders

Should such actually exist, I suspect there are several
GOOTCHAS
attached to that offer

heavy wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:15 pm

It's kind of funny. If you cruise on one of Royal Caribbean's Oasis Class Ships they have two roulette games. On the non-smoking side of the casino they have a single zero wheel. On the smoking side they have a double zero wheel. If both games are open - the double zero game will be packed and the single zero game will have one to three players almost every time. It's weird. I remember hearing a player walk up to the dealer at the double zero game and ask if it was a triple zero game. The dealer said no, it was not. The player refused to play, saying she only played triple zero games. What a dumbass.

Presumably
a ZERO ZERO ( NO ZERO ) just 36 numbers would offer perhaps
a straight-up EVEN GAME, presumably NO HOUSE EDGE.

Single Zero gives THE HOUSE a 2.7% edge
Double( TWO ZEROS) gives THE HOUSE a 5.26% EDGE

Triple ( THREE ZEROS) gives THE HOUSE a 7.69% EDGE

If ever there is a FOUR ZERO ROULETTE WHEEL
the HOUSE EDGE SWELLS TO==================>10%

w c

Just thinking like I'm the owner of the casino, or as the person that sets up a new game, here's a thought:

Suppose you set up a roulette wheel with 40 individual slots. This would equate to a wheel with four zeros, but here's the catch, you make two slots a single zero, and two slots a double zero. Lets say the slots at 12 0'clock and at 6 o'clock the single zero, and the ones at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock the double zero. This now makes the 0, and the 00 to be a mathematical advantage, but it further reduces the probability of all the other bets on the numbers and colors. Payout would still be 35 to one on a single number, and all the other payouts on columns, rows, etc. would still be the same too. You don't even need to change the graphic betting grid, it's just the wheel that would need to get modified.

I'd have to believe someone else has thought of that, and the penchant of gamblers to want to try something new might make it popular initially, but I wonder if that would work out in the long term.

If I had a casino boat or some other small venue that could do this on a limited and controlled offering, I'd be getting one of those roulette wheels built. Just lift off the existing wheel from the roulette table, replace it on the bearing with the new wheel, and see how it works out.

As long as we're inventing new roulette wheels, let's build one with 70 trays and call it the Two Backed Beast. Sixty-Nine Numbers and a Seventieth tray with a hole in it that the ball will disappear down if it falls in that tray. That will set off all sorts of lights, bells, sirens, whistles, and confetti. Make it pay 130:1 or some such thing. Roughly double whatever the odds are of it hitting. But then have three green trays on each side of Tray #70, creating a green wall on each side of the Two Backed Beast. Then, since there are 62 other open trays, we'll have to scatter some more green trays out there. I think four more should give us a good edge. That will put the green slots about every 21 - 22 trays and we'll put two green trays side by side. I think we can put some sort of animation on the inside of the wheel showing some sort of porn while the wheel is spinning. Entirely possible. Perhaps even in 3-D. Or even holographic. Forward thinking right down into the gutter.

I wasn't trying to be facetious, just putting out a thought I had, and wondering if anyone else had ever thought of modifying an existing game. Someone thought of adding that second zero at some point, and there must be places that come up with all the various card games and extended bets, like the ones on Blackjack tables now.
But your idea of the holographic porn seems interesting. I'd make the three trays that are found after the seventieth tray with the hole be brown in color though. You can call them chocolate starfish trays.

There's a whole annual convention dedicated to new casino gaming technology, game ideas that get pitched to casinos to license, etc. It's the Global Gaming Expo (G2E), held in Las Vegas every year.

I wasn't trying to be facetious, just putting out a thought I had, and wondering if anyone else had ever thought of modifying an existing game. Someone thought of adding that second zero at some point, and there must be places that come up with all the various card games and extended bets, like the ones on Blackjack tables now.
But your idea of the holographic porn seems interesting. I'd make the three trays that are found after the seventieth tray with the hole be brown in color though. You can call them chocolate starfish trays.

Of course, we could only market this to Hustler Casinos. But yeah, I'm often thinking about modifying existing games with different bets - particularly different "carnival bets" you could create for craps. The guy who invented the Bonus Bet has gotten fat off the residuals off that. He's an Asian gent who lives in Vegas and has come up with a number of different games over the years - spin offs of existing games - and he's made a fortune from it.

heavy wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:09 am

I wasn't trying to be facetious, just putting out a thought I had, and wondering if anyone else had ever thought of modifying an existing game. Someone thought of adding that second zero at some point, and there must be places that come up with all the various card games and extended bets, like the ones on Blackjack tables now.
But your idea of the holographic porn seems interesting. I'd make the three trays that are found after the seventieth tray with the hole be brown in color though. You can call them chocolate starfish trays.

Of course, we could only market this to Hustler Casinos. But yeah, I'm often thinking about modifying existing games with different bets - particularly different "carnival bets" you could create for craps. The guy who invented the Bonus Bet has gotten fat off the residuals off that. He's an Asian gent who lives in Vegas and has come up with a number of different games over the years - spin offs of existing games - and he's made a fortune from it.

Well if anyone wants to take my roulette idea and bring it to fruition, I fully expect to be added as a passenger on that gravy train when the cash starts rolling in.