Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum

All this is absolutely true..if you are playing the right or light side of the table. I have played $25 tables on the darkside with $300 and done just fine. You don't get rich, but you can make a few bucks. Maybe enough move over to that $10 table at the Palace and play the right side.

This is an issue that I struggle with. It is especially important with the table minimum increases post Covid. I normally would buy in for $620 at a $5 table. Betting on myself, I would normally start at $66 even numbers, regress after first hit, and go up from there. If I was doing good, I would work up to $110 as an opening bet, with a regression to $22 or $44. I should mention that on other shooters I tended to play either Don'ts or Heavy's Heat Seeker at a lower outlay.

Now I admit that I go to the casino much less than I used to, but when I do it is mostly one table open with a $25 minimum. So instead of an overall regression it's now more like $110 even, one hit, down on the 4 and 10, and focus like hell on the 6 and 8.

Could I buy in for a larger amount to justify higher initial bets? Yes. Am I comfortable doing that? Not really. Is it crap between my ears? Most likely. Do I wish that $5 tables would come back? Most definitely!

I wouldn't expect to see $5 tables any time soon. If anything likely the opposite as I don't live in Nevada but I believe they just raised min wage... Table min definitely going up

AllahPena wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:53 pm I wouldn't expect to see $5 tables any time soon. If anything likely the opposite as I don't live in Nevada but I believe they just raised min wage... Table min definitely going up

Agree. $5 tables are going the way of the dinosaur. Sure there may be a few unicorns out there, but by and large they're a thing of the past $15 is the new $5 in this new normal. The casinos have zero incentive to go back from where they are now, as they have no problems filling those higher minimum tables. If they had the staff to run more tables, those would be full as well I think. The rumors of craps demise have been greatly exaggerated.

My only surprise is that the casinos skipped right past $10 and went straight to $15 tables as the norm.

My only surprise is that the casinos skipped right past $10 and went straight to $15 tables as the norm.

i am a little baffled by that as well. I am even more baffled when is see a casino with several full tables @10 or 15 and have another 1 or 2 open and empty @25 with full crews just standing there.

I am seeing(hearing of) more and more $5 tables but i dont think they will be back as the norm either.

Out of curiosity, if you are on the 6 and 8 for 30 each (or 24) for a shooter, is there a point where you pull your bets down if they have not hit them e.g. 3 rolls or 5 rolls and off?

I have to say that after taking a class with Heavy I have been able to step out of my comfort zone regarding my bets. Paying particular attention to money management has allowed me to make my bets on the table confidently at higher levels. Thanks Heavy for teaching me regression.

Out of curiosity, if you are on the 6 and 8 for 30 each (or 24) for a shooter, is there a point where you pull your bets down if they have not hit them e.g. 3 rolls or 5 rolls and off?

The average "game" at craps (defined as come out roll to when a decision on the point is made - either the player makes his point or sevens out) is approximately 3.5 rolls. The average "hand" at craps (a hand can consist of one game or many) is about 8.5 rolls. The likelihood of seeing ONE six or eight is less than 50% (I don't recall the exact percentage, but it's in the high 40's). The likelihood of seeing TWO drops dramatically - down in to the 20's. But we're talking about betting on "random rollers" here, which you probably shouldn't be doing, right? Unless you are playing something like One Hit - Can't Miss. Playing on a known DI who tosses a LOT of sixes and eights (DarthNater sometimes refers to me as a six and eight machine, although I have days where I can't toss any - just like anyone else) you can push the regression points out farther. But typically, even on a DI, by the time we get out to six - to - eight rolls I'm looking for an excuse to regress. On my OWN hands, I'm much less likely to regress early, as I prefer to power press my six and eight in order to get a $50 for $1 payoff on a $42 bet. That pays for BOTH an $18 six and eight OR a $24 six and eight, so you're in "Fat City" after that. It's press and take time. At the end of the day, though, you're going to have to judge the shooter and take into consideration your personal sevens tolerance and make a decision from there.